Approximately 18 months ago I, World's End Stella, went on an extensive youtube

investigation of all the young prospects I had seen mentioned in the media as potentially being available. After extensive analysis (approx. 30min for all of them) I decided that there were two outstanding talents available, these being Leroy Sane and Ousmane Dembele, both of whom were sold that summer for amounts that Arsenal Football Club could have comfortably afforded. Both are now worth close to 100mil (maybe) proving, yet again, that WES knows a good footballer when he sees one, and a ****e one, as well. See Aaron Ramsey as further proof, as if it were needed. Of course, we didn't buy them because we had AOC and Walcott :-|

On the back of today's BBC Gossip column and a recommendation from that Bundesliga watching pervert, SW, I have spent 5 minutes watching Leon Goretzka play football and I can confirm that he is exactly the player we need at Arsenal.

There is therefore no chance whatsoever of us purchasing him, mostly because we have Xhaka and Ramsey :-|

Still, maybe he'll show up at Spurs :cloud9:

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Originally Posted by World's End Stella

investigation of all the young prospects I had seen mentioned in the media as potentially being available. After extensive analysis (approx. 30min for all of them) I decided that there were two outstanding talents available, these being Leroy Sane and Ousmane Dembele, both of whom were sold that summer for amounts that Arsenal Football Club could have comfortably afforded. Both are now worth close to 100mil (maybe) proving, yet again, that WES knows a good footballer when he sees one, and a ****e one, as well. See Aaron Ramsey as further proof, as if it were needed. Of course, we didn't buy them because we had AOC and Walcott :-|

On the back of today's BBC Gossip column and a recommendation from that Bundesliga watching pervert, SW, I have spent 5 minutes watching Leon Goretzka play football and I can confirm that he is exactly the player we need at Arsenal.

There is therefore no chance whatsoever of us purchasing him, mostly because we have Xhaka and Ramsey :-|

Still, maybe he'll show up at Spurs :cloud9:

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Look, we all know you know **** all about football and are a vile driver who would happily cause an accident if you woke in a bad mood.... comes form driving on the LHS in the states at a guess, muddles the brain.

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Originally Posted by World's End Stella

investigation of all the young prospects I had seen mentioned in the media as potentially being available. After extensive analysis (approx. 30min for all of them) I decided that there were two outstanding talents available, these being Leroy Sane and Ousmane Dembele, both of whom were sold that summer for amounts that Arsenal Football Club could have comfortably afforded. Both are now worth close to 100mil (maybe) proving, yet again, that WES knows a good footballer when he sees one, and a ****e one, as well. See Aaron Ramsey as further proof, as if it were needed. Of course, we didn't buy them because we had AOC and Walcott :-|

On the back of today's BBC Gossip column and a recommendation from that Bundesliga watching pervert, SW, I have spent 5 minutes watching Leon Goretzka play football and I can confirm that he is exactly the player we need at Arsenal.

There is therefore no chance whatsoever of us purchasing him, mostly because we have Xhaka and Ramsey :-|

Still, maybe he'll show up at Spurs :cloud9:

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Is this the summer that Sane went to City?

Yeah, that purchase would have been a piece of piss wouldn't it.

Anyway, as you say, we had the Ox then. Now we have Iwobi. And even if we didnt, we have an average side with a clueless manager who would ruin any young player he got his hands on.

So it doesnt really matter, does it.

Anyway, the ashes starts tonight....

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Originally Posted by Peter

Is this the summer that Sane went to City?

Yeah, that purchase would have been a piece of piss wouldn't it.

Anyway, as you say, we had the Ox then. Now we have Iwobi. And even if we didnt, we have an average side with a clueless manager who would ruin any young player he got his hands on.

So it doesnt really matter, does it.

Anyway, the ashes starts tonight....

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I’ve realised that I’m simply too old now to stay up half the night watching the ashes :-( They shall just have to get on with it without me, I’m afraid.

Also, we’re gonna get gubbed.

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Originally Posted by Peter

Is this the summer that Sane went to City?

Yeah, that purchase would have been a piece of piss wouldn't it.

Anyway, as you say, we had the Ox then. Now we have Iwobi. And even if we didnt, we have an average side with a clueless manager who would ruin any young player he got his hands on.

So it doesnt really matter, does it.

Anyway, the ashes starts tonight....

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I don't understand what you mean. WES keeps telling us that there is absolutely no disparity between ours and City's ability to sign players :shrug:

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Originally Posted by World's End Stella

investigation of all the young prospects I had seen mentioned in the media as potentially being available. After extensive analysis (approx. 30min for all of them) I decided that there were two outstanding talents available, these being Leroy Sane and Ousmane Dembele, both of whom were sold that summer for amounts that Arsenal Football Club could have comfortably afforded. Both are now worth close to 100mil (maybe) proving, yet again, that WES knows a good footballer when he sees one, and a ****e one, as well. See Aaron Ramsey as further proof, as if it were needed. Of course, we didn't buy them because we had AOC and Walcott :-|

On the back of today's BBC Gossip column and a recommendation from that Bundesliga watching pervert, SW, I have spent 5 minutes watching Leon Goretzka play football and I can confirm that he is exactly the player we need at Arsenal.

There is therefore no chance whatsoever of us purchasing him, mostly because we have Xhaka and Ramsey :-|

Still, maybe he'll show up at Spurs :cloud9:

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:hehe:In a self-****ing up there with the time you gave a detailed appraisal of everything Aaron did wrong in a game that he didn't even play in, that line is something special. Dembélé maybe worth a 100 million? He signed for Barcelona in a deal that will eventually be worth 130million so yes well done in assessing his value

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Originally Posted by Monty92

I don't understand what you mean. WES keeps telling us that there is absolutely no disparity between ours and City's ability to sign players :shrug:

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Nobody is going to join us over City. Certainly not now.

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Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda

:hehe:In a self-****ing up there with the time you gave a detailed appraisal of everything Aaron did wrong in a game that he didn't even play in, that line is something special. Dembélé maybe worth a 100 million? He signed for Barcelona in a deal that will eventually be worth 130million so yes well done in assessing his value

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So he was available then?

****ing Wenger :banghead::banghead:

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Originally Posted by Burney

I’ve realised that I’m simply too old now to stay up half the night watching the ashes :-( They shall just have to get on with it without me, I’m afraid.

Also, we’re gonna get gubbed.

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I normally go to bed at around midnight so I think I will manage to hang on for the first half an hour tonight. That should be long enough to have the result confirmed..... :eek:

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Originally Posted by Monty92

I don't understand what you mean. WES keeps telling us that there is absolutely no disparity between ours and City's ability to sign players :shrug:

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In fact, I have never said this. I have said that City's ability to sign players that we cannot does not excuse our lack of signings nor our inability to challenge for the league or the CL on a reasonably consistent basis.

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Originally Posted by Burney

I’ve realised that I’m simply too old now to stay up half the night watching the ashes :-( They shall just have to get on with it without me, I’m afraid.

Also, we’re gonna get gubbed.

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Half their batting line-up is injured though

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Originally Posted by World's End Stella

In fact, I have never said this. I have said that City's ability to sign players that we cannot does not excuse our lack of signings nor our inability to challenge for the league or the CL on a reasonably consistent basis.

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Who is this Leon whatshisname chap then? why is he perfect for us?

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Originally Posted by Peter

Is this the summer that Sane went to City?

Yeah, that purchase would have been a piece of piss wouldn't it.

Anyway, as you say, we had the Ox then. Now we have Iwobi. And even if we didnt, we have an average side with a clueless manager who would ruin any young player he got his hands on.

So it doesnt really matter, does it.

Anyway, the ashes starts tonight....

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And the French international Ousmane Dembele who went to Dortmund that summer? Do you think that Arsenal with their renowned French manager and their financial power might have been able to sign him? Hmmm?

The rest of your post I quite like. :-)

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Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda

Half their batting line-up is injured though

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Its our batting that is the concern. I dont like the sound of their bowling attack at all. Pace, bounce, etc. **** that for a laugh....

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Originally Posted by World's End Stella

In fact, I have never said this. I have said that City's ability to sign players that we cannot does not excuse our lack of signings nor our inability to challenge for the league or the CL on a reasonably consistent basis.

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Can you name any other clubs that have weaker purchasing power than City that have challenged for the league or CL on a reasonably consistent basis?

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Originally Posted by World's End Stella

And the French international Ousmane Dembele who went to Dortmund that summer? Do you think that Arsenal with their renowned French manager and their financial power might have been able to sign him? Hmmm?

The rest of your post I quite like. :-)

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We were busy almost signing the kid at Monaco.

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Originally Posted by Peter

Who is this Leon whatshisname chap then? why is he perfect for us?

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Box to box midfielder to use a cliché, loads of talent from what I saw. Put him next to someone like Kante or Matic and you would have the perfect 4231 midfield two.

I suggest youtube, Peter.

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Originally Posted by Monty92

Can you name any other clubs that have weaker purchasing power than City that have challenged for the league or CL on a reasonably consistent basis?

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Everyone has weaker purchasing power than City. So, I will give you Chelsea as an answer. Give me two years and I will probably add Spurs as well.

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Originally Posted by World's End Stella

Box to box midfielder to use a cliché, loads of talent from what I saw. Put him next to someone like Kante or Matic and you would have the perfect 4231 midfield two.

I suggest youtube, Peter.

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So we would just need a Magic or a Kante and we would be all set. I assume this chap is going to cost upwards of 50-60 million?

By the time they are on youtube it is too late.

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Originally Posted by Burney

I’ve realised that I’m simply too old now to stay up half the night watching the ashes :-( They shall just have to get on with it without me, I’m afraid.

Also, we’re gonna get gubbed.

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For those of us who are relative novices to watching the Ashes, what are the timings? How late do I have to stay up to watch the first 10 overs or so and how early do I have to get up to watch the last 10?

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Originally Posted by Pokster

Look, we all know you know **** all about football and are a vile driver who would happily cause an accident if you woke in a bad mood.... comes form driving on the LHS in the states at a guess, muddles the brain.

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Pssst - before anyone notices you might want to change that. They drive on the RHS in the States, it's England that drive on the LHS.

:thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Peter

By the time they are on youtube it is too late.

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Right. You need to scout them on FIFA.

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Originally Posted by World's End Stella

In fact, I have never said this. I have said that City's ability to sign players that we cannot does not excuse our lack of signings nor our inability to challenge for the league or the CL on a reasonably consistent basis.

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So we should regularly be as good as a club who have unlimited power to recruit better players than us in every position. By us I mean Arsenal not Spurs.

You sound like the kind of person who doesn't use their indicator and then laughs at the people it inconveniences and endangers.

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Originally Posted by Peter

Everyone has weaker purchasing power than City. So, I will give you Chelsea as an answer. Give me two years and I will probably add Spurs as well.

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Wait, in two years you will contend that Spurs have 'challenged for the league or CL on a reasnoably consisitent basis'?

That doesn't make any sense, since they won't have.

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Originally Posted by Monty92

Can you name any other clubs that have weaker purchasing power than City that have challenged for the league or CL on a reasonably consistent basis?

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The money-making side of things has been very good; it's our actual football that's not been good enough.

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Originally Posted by World's End Stella

For those of us who are relative novices to watching the Ashes, what are the timings? How late do I have to stay up to watch the first 10 overs or so and how early do I have to get up to watch the last 10?

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Midnight start in the UK - 1am here :( Should go on til about 7.30ish but gets dark quickly in Queensland plus rain scheduled for the afternoon. I've taken Friday off so I can sit in the pub all night and watch day 2 :)

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Originally Posted by Peter

Everyone has weaker purchasing power than City. So, I will give you Chelsea as an answer. Give me two years and I will probably add Spurs as well.

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It's also a stupid, loaded question, precisely the sort that Monty - with his Wenger blankie wrapped around his shoulders - is likely to ask.

If Leicester can win the league, and Liverpool can come within touching distance, then Arsenal should be able to challenge consistently. His question also ignores how much Arsenal could spend if we had a manager capable of and willing to do it. I point to this past summer's transfer window as yet another example.

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So we should regularly be as good as a club who have unlimited power to recruit better players than us in every position. By us I mean Arsenal not Spurs.

You sound like the kind of person who doesn't use their indicator and then laughs at the people it inconveniences and endangers.

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Yes, if you ignore the part of the mission statement about improving players. You know, making stars rather than buying them :-\

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Originally Posted by Sir C

Wait, in two years you will contend that Spurs have 'challenged for the league or CL on a reasnoably consisitent basis'?

That doesn't make any sense, since they won't have.

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But but but - they managed to match what Hannover and Stuttgart have done in recent weeks and beat European powerhouse Dortmund - they is the bestest, sir c

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Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda

But but but - they managed to match what Hannover and Stuttgart have done in recent weeks and beat European powerhouse Dortmund - they is the bestest, sir c

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An amazing result, to be sure. I expect that's why they hammered us at home at the weekend, is it?

Oh.

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Originally Posted by Sir C

An amazing result, to be sure. I expect that's why they hammered us at home at the weekend, is it?

Oh.

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:nod: Amazing how Kane and Alli were poor at the weekend because they weren't match fit but were sensational last night - those three days must have been interesting

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Originally Posted by Ash

So we should regularly be as good as a club who have unlimited power to recruit better players than us in every position.

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No, I did not say this.

Although you could make an argument that had we ditched Wenger when we should have that we had a very good chance at Guardiola and we might very well be just as good as City or anyone else right now. Sadly, we'll never know as the one thing Arsenal haven't had for many years and won't have until Wenger leaves is hope.

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Originally Posted by World's End Stella

Pssst - before anyone notices you might want to change that. They drive on the RHS in the States, it's England that drive on the LHS.

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Notice you picked up on that but didn't bother to correct that you know f all about football... from that I take it you are now admitting that fact :judge: Guilty as charged

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Originally Posted by Sir C

An amazing result, to be sure. I expect that's why they hammered us at home at the weekend, is it?

Oh.

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They have challenged for the title in the last two seasons (even if not entirely convincingly). I think they will challenge for it again and not win it over the next two years. Hence the my previous post.

Clearly, if they don't then I wont make the claim. I think I was fairly clear on that initially.

Obviously they are still **** and ****s, whatever they do.

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Originally Posted by Pokster

Notice you picked up on that but didn't bother to correct that you know f all about football... from that I take it you are now admitting that fact :judge: Guilty as charged

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So even a guy who knows **** all about football can spot players that we are missing?

Oh dear.

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Originally Posted by Peter

They have challenged for the title in the last two seasons (even if not entirely convincingly). I think they will challenge for it again and not win it over the next two years. Hence the my previous post.

Clearly, if they don't then I wont make the claim. I think I was fairly clear on that initially.

Obviously they are still **** and ****s, whatever they do.

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Two seasons ago they finished below us, so we must have been closer to challenging for the title than them :shrug:

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Originally Posted by Peter

So even a guy who knows **** all about football can spot players that we are missing?

Oh dear.

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He "spotted" them by looking at names we were linked with on gossip pages, i wouldn't exactly say that makes him a possible scout

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Originally Posted by Peter

Its our batting that is the concern. I dont like the sound of their bowling attack at all. Pace, bounce, etc. **** that for a laugh....

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Inexperienced (in Cummins case) and injury prone (all three pacemen with scant back up). Please don't believe the hype, P. As Mike Atherton pointed out when commenting on the Australian's assertion that this was Australia's best Ashes bowling attack ever (yes, really) - combined their three pacemen have 605 fewer test wickets than Broad and Anderson

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Originally Posted by World's End Stella

No, I did not say this.

Although you could make an argument that had we ditched Wenger when we should have that we had a very good chance at Guardiola and we might very well be just as good as City or anyone else right now. Sadly, we'll never know as the one thing Arsenal haven't had for many years and won't have until Wenger leaves is hope.

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Isn't it enough to say that we should consistently perform better than we do?

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Originally Posted by Peter

They have challenged for the title in the last two seasons (even if not entirely convincingly). I think they will challenge for it again and not win it over the next two years. Hence the my previous post.

Clearly, if they don't then I wont make the claim. I think I was fairly clear on that initially.

Obviously they are still **** and ****s, whatever they do.

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Saying you think they will challenge but won't win it is a total oxymoron. If you think they'll challenge, by definition it means you think there's no reason why they can't win it.