:clap: The Boy Owen got there first.

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Originally Posted by World's End Stella

Rather surprising that we don't have a lot more of these attacks then, isn't it? What with there being 2.6 million people in this country who, in your view, practice a religion which encourages it.

The Islamic nutters take a very narrow, superficial view of Islam and what it means and, ironically, you seem to be doing the same thing.

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You are telling us that Islam does not encourage the slaughter of the kuffir? You are telling us that monty has made this up?

Do you think we ought to reprt him or something? He must be mental to think such a thing.

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Originally Posted by Monty92

You're denying that there are endless verses in the Quran and its associated texts that explictely call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule?

Thankfully, the overwhelming majority of Muslims choose to uphold a sanitised, distorted version of Islam - otherwise we'd be in even bigger trouble.

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No, I'm saying that like any religion Islam has a holy book that is filled with contradiction and vagaries which therefore requires its followers to decide, to some extent, what they wish to believe and what they do not, how to act and how not to act.

The nutters take one view, the overwhelming majority take another. Quite why you would deem the version that the overwhelming majority take to be the distorted version I have no idea.

Unless you're a vulture, of course.

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Originally Posted by Sir C

You are telling us that Islam does not encourage the slaughter of the kuffir? You are telling us that monty has made this up?

Do you think we ought to reprt him or something? He must be mental to think such a thing.

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No, I did not tell you that.

The Kuran certainly does have passages which encourage this sort of behavior. It also has a great many passages that make it clear that this sort of behavior is unacceptable and contrary to Islam.

The nutters decide to follow the former, the overwhelming majority of Muslims the latter.

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Originally Posted by World's End Stella

No, I did not tell you that.

The Kuran certainly does have passages which encourage this sort of behavior. It also has a great many passages that make it clear that this sort of behavior is unacceptable and contrary to Islam.

The nutters decide to follow the former, the overwhelming majority of Muslims the latter.

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Oh, they're 'nutters', are they? History of mental illness, that sort of thing? Norwegian loner, hmm?

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Originally Posted by Sir C

Oh, they're 'nutters', are they? History of mental illness, that sort of thing? Norwegian loner, hmm?

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Possibly a great many of them are, especially the foot soldiers.

But not all of them, of course. I could use a term other than nutter if you like? the disaffected? The social outcasts? The psychotic?

Anyone who blows himself up in a theatre amongst teen age girls and their parents clearly has something very wrong with them.

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Originally Posted by World's End Stella

Possibly a great many of them are, especially the foot soldiers.

But not all of them, of course. I could use a term other than nutter if you like? the disaffected? The social outcasts? The psychotic?

Anyone who blows himself up in a theatre amongst teen age girls and their parents clearly has something very wrong with them.

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Yes. Clearly something wrong with them, like following a savage, barbaric medieval religion which appears to be growing in strength and even at a state level revels in this sort of enlightened behaviour.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-s...n-s-sharia-law

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Originally Posted by World's End Stella

Possibly a great many of them are, especially the foot soldiers.

But not all of them, of course. I could use a term other than nutter if you like? the disaffected? The social outcasts? The psychotic?

Anyone who blows himself up in a theatre amongst teen age girls and their parents clearly has something very wrong with them.

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The disaffected? The social outcasts? Most of the 9/11 hijackers had PhDs!! Many Islamic terrorists are western educated and have all the opportunities and privileges one could hope for in life.

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Originally Posted by Monty92

You're denying that there are endless verses in the Quran and its associated texts that explictely call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule?

Thankfully, the overwhelming majority of Muslims choose to uphold a sanitised, distorted version of Islam - otherwise we'd be in even bigger trouble.

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Yet your previous message suggested that all muslims want to do this and any that don't are not proper muslims.

Going on to explain that the only true religion is found in the verbatim acceptance of original script is a very childish and rather idiotic attempt to disguise the fact that you wrote a deliberately inflammatory message- which is also rather childish.

Poor form....expect better.

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Originally Posted by World's End Stella

Possibly a great many of them are, especially the foot soldiers.

But not all of them, of course. I could use a term other than nutter if you like? the disaffected? The social outcasts? The psychotic?

Anyone who blows himself up in a theatre amongst teen age girls and their parents clearly has something very wrong with them.

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But you say yourself that believing it is right to fight nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule is a credible reading of the Quran. We know this because you say the Quran "certainly does have passages which encourage this sort of behavior".

So why would you then say anyone who follows that interpretation "clearly has something very wrong with them"? It is their entirely credible (by your own admission) interpretation of a book containing what they believe is the immutable words of God.

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Originally Posted by Sir C

Yes. Clearly something wrong with them, like following a savage, barbaric medieval religion which appears to be growing in strength and even at a state level revels in this sort of enlightened behaviour.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-s...n-s-sharia-law

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For one thing, it is far older than medieval. All religions have barbarism within them. There are horrific passages in the bible containing absurd and contradictory laws with appalling punishment. Unfortunately there are some in every religion that are drawn towards this historical interpretation to support what are very modern desires and conflicts.

For radical Islamic terrorst read KKK. Every religion has them....