described her own party's economic plans as a 'shît or bust' strategy.
Oh, dear lord! :hehe:
Putting to one's side the obvious jokes about it being both, does it not seem a tad worrying that Her Majesty's Opposition's 'plan' appears to be rolling the dice with the country's economy by just spending a fück ton of magic money?
Doesn't matter, though does it, since they're not getting anywhere near power, so you promise me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
:-|
when their mates in the banking sector basically lose at roulette.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Sorry? When did the tories bail out the banking sector again?Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman
Only I could have sworn that was a Labour Government that did that.
Oh, they’re not. The longer things go without them breaking through, the more certain I am.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
Also, Owen Jones is trying to soften up the anti-Brexit middle class base for the fact that Labour are going to have to get off the fence and back Brexit, so they’re about to have their own internal shįtstorm.
They're all Tories b
Ah, yes. ‘Red Tories’ like Peter. :nod:Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman
Good job they did as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Didn’t deny it. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pokster
Didn't say you did :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
This could go on like a game of tennis
In fairness, the QE continued well into Cameron's first tenure*
*had to look it up - wouldn't have known
QE didn't bail the banks out...Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman
Of course it did. It sort of had to. That was the post-collapse strategy. He could hardly have come in and pulled the plug without tanking the economy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman
Totally, B, totally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Almost as bad as HMG rolling the dice with our entire economic future in 2016 simply to try and face down some rowdy back-benchers than even Major had had the balls to stand up to.
Sorry mate .. not very good at sums and all that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pokster
Who did bail out the banks?
GPWM Gan ..GPVWMQuote:
Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
:hehe: Yes. How dare they give the British people the right to determine how they should be governed? Disgusting!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
fight! fight!
Pok and Berni that is
Fùckssake, h. You don’t read so good either, do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman
Oh for fuxake b. The whole thing is a fúcking shambles and is going to ruin us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Labour (quite correctly) rescued Lloyds and RBS... and would likely have had to rescue Barclay's if it hadn't done some dodgy dealsQuote:
Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman
I'm a lover not a fighter herbsQuote:
Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman
:hehe: It really isn’t, you know. It’ll be fine. It’s only faint-hearted, lily-livered pussies like you and gg who think it will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman
Yes, well I’m doing neither with you, thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pokster
You may rationalise and intellectualise til the cows come home b. The last election sealed your reputation as a man whose finger is a long way from the pulse. Was it a 100 seat majority for the Tories?Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
SpoilsportQuote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Thank you kind Sir. It wasn't the Bank of England then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pokster
No wonder my party subs had to go up :-D
In common with pretty much everyone else (m aside), I got it wrong. I put my hands up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman
However, my record to that point was excellent. I underestimated the effect Brexit would have on the (entirely misplaced) protest vote for Labour would be. It won’t happen again.
You know what I'm gonna say:Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
So if the public vote for JC (most not having read the manifesto) that is bad.
If the public vote for Brexit (without having a clue about basic economics) that is good.
Is this like one of those irregular verbs?
The BOE were instructed to bail them out... IF they hadn't what happened would have seemed like a tea party compared to what would have happened.... just need to get our money back on RBS, might do it someeime during my kids lifetimeQuote:
Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman
Well it ain't gonna ruin you ya soft handed middle-class tosser. You'll still be sitting on your capacious buttocks getting overpaid to produce a couple of pages of prose very week about fúcking farming machinery or whatever branch of journalism you are in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Those of us expected to actually operate the machinery will be them as will suffer.
So all of this stuff about the BOE being independent is scurrilous fallacy - for shame!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pokster
http://edu.bankofengland.co.uk/knowl...he-government/
Well let's hope notQuote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Good thing or bad thing, if they vote for either, it's something that those of us who don't like it have to accept. That is democracy. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
By the way, the big mistake you remainers always make is thinking that the economy was a factor in voting for Brexit. It wasn't. Whether you think it ought to have been isn't really the point. It wasn't. There was more at stake and people knew very well there might be a negative financial impact from leaving and voted to do it anyway. It's a thing called principle.
The first line where they say they are owned by the Govt gives it away somewhatQuote:
Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman
B, you're meant to be better than this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Where have I ever said voting Brexit was about the economics?
Yes, as you sort of hint after, I believe that it should have been about the economics. But I know full well the Brexit voters weren't thinking of that beyond a few Tory neo-lib loons.
My sister in law (in immigrant free Cornwall) voted leave "To **** the lot of them."
I'm sure loads of northerns voted out for immigration like that 2010 "Bigotted woman." But, and I quote:
"the big mistake you remainers always make is thinking that the economy was a factor in voting for Brexit. "
I never said that, ever, did I?
So why the veil of fiction?
Could it be that I've shown that your criticism of JC at the start of this post applies exactly to Brexit too and you can't find a way out?
"people knew very well there might be a negative financial impact from leaving and voted to do it anyway. It's a thing called principle."
Er, that's what Momentum say, B, init?
That's what this 'JC's **** or bust with the UK econ" is, init, B?
Same ting, blood.
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Originally Posted by Burney
I think you may be giving far too many people far too much credit.
It is likely that most of the voters didn't have any idea of the essence of what they were voting for.
There are a million reasons not to vote for Corbyn. The fact that the economy would go down faster than Herb's mum on a hen do is just one of the minor ones. However, I can make that argument until I'm blue in the face, but if the electorate choose that route, I have to live with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
The other point is that the predictions of economic ruin from a Brexit vote have already been shown to be bullshït. You're speculating wildly in the hope of creating the false equivalence between a vote for Brexit and a vote for Corbyn. By contrast, there is no doubt at all that Corbyn would wreck the economy. None. He has made his antipathy to our most successful industry clear and has outlined plans to raise taxes across the board to pay for unaffordable levels of public spending. The 'fully-costed' sums quite simply don't add up, which means economic disaster as an absolute certainty. Anyone who votes for Corbyn does so knowing that he will wreck the economy - indeed, many of them see that as a feature rather than a bug of voting for him.
By the way, I don't know if you've spotted this, but the flipside of your argument is that anyone who votes for Corbyn's Labour and also makes the argument that people shouldn't have voted for Brexit because it would damage the economy is a rank fücking hypocrite given that the Shadow Chancellor has admitted that the first thing they have to prepare for should they get in is a run on the banks.
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Originally Posted by Alberto Balsam Rodriguez
I think everyone knew what they were voting for. Did they all know the implications of that vote? Of course not. How could they? It's unprecedented.