June 2015: Parliament votes for EU referendum

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Originally Posted by Peter

The best future outside the EU probably involves the EU no longer existing. So those most committed to it should focus on destroying it.

Funny old game etc :)

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Well, if Germany has to suffer adverse results of US sanctions against Russia because Poland approves, there may well be entropy in the system.

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Originally Posted by Peter

They will....I think. The bigger test for Labour would be if they actually won an election. Corbyn would face tremendous pressure from his parliamentary party to consider a second referendum.

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:hehe: He should pay more attention to their working class leave voters who will desert the party for ever if they are betrayed. And these are the same PLPers presumably who had been trying to knife JC since he won the leadership.

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Originally Posted by Ash

:hehe: He should pay more attention to their working class leave voters who will desert the party for ever if they are betrayed. And these are the same PLPers presumably who had been trying to knife JC since he won the leadership.

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This is why Corbyn is staying firm on a full Brexit. If they betray their working class support, those voters will disappear forever. If they betray their middle class support, they'll stick with them because the alternative is the Tories.

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Originally Posted by Ash

:hehe: He should pay more attention to their working class leave voters who will desert the party for ever if they are betrayed. And these are the same PLPers presumably who had been trying to knife JC since he won the leadership.

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The very same, yes. They can go Fock themselves when you are in opposition. The minute they are your majority you have to listen to them.

Remember corbyn cares little for this ****. He is more concerned with how Westminster governs Britain.

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Originally Posted by Peter

The very same, yes. They can go Fock themselves when you are in opposition. The minute they are your majority you have to listen to them.

Remember corbyn cares little for this ****. He is more concerned with how Westminster governs Britain.

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He should purge the phuckers. Drain the swamp!

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Originally Posted by Ash

It seems that many remainers desperately want this to be true, and hope that if they keep repeating it it will come true, rather than using their energies to work out the best future outside the EU.

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Let us put it another way. No leaver has actually come up with a path that actually leads to leaving being of genuine benefit.

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Originally Posted by Monty92

June 2016: Leave wins referendum

June 2017: Public given chance to vote for pro-leave or pro-remain parties at General Election. Pro-leave parties win 84% of the vote share

August 2017: Opinion polls show 70% of people want UK to honour the referendum result, regardless of which way they voted

And yet absolute ****s like this STILL claim there's no mandate for leaving. Unbelievable. Just unbelievable.

https://audioboom.com/posts/6194680-...ogg-vs-chapman

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Of course there is a mandate to leave, but not a mandate for much else. It was a spectacularly stupid question to ask, because only one of the answers gave a clear way forward.

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Originally Posted by Alberto Balsam Rodriguez

Let us put it another way. No leaver has actually come up with a path that actually leads to leaving being of genuine benefit.

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That is your opinion. though it sounds to me as if you are saying "Nah nah I'm not listening!"

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Originally Posted by AFC East

Of course there is a mandate to leave, but not a mandate for much else. It was a spectacularly stupid question to ask, because only one of the answers gave a clear way forward.

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The question wasn't stupid, and it was clear. Leave means leave.

God, I'm bored of repeating this.

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Originally Posted by Ash

The question wasn't stupid, and it was clear. Leave means leave.

God, I'm bored of repeating this.

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Should be forced to repeat it until it make some sense though, which it will never do. It doesn't - or does only as much as frankfurter means frankfurter. It is an absolutely ludicrous position to hold - leave should have meant something, people should have been given more to vote on than just a rejection of an idea. People essentially voted for a vacuum at the heart of our government and yet you still nonchalantly dismiss people who say this might have been bad idea as "Project Fear" - another utterly stupid concept. Anyway - enjoy the match, a. Chat Monday :)