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Remind us again of Arsene’s record against this lot ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Won a double at OT and beat them in a cup final. When we had Santi, Ozil and Alexis - 3 Wengerball triangle players - we beat them 3-0.aQuote:
Originally Posted by 7sisters
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Originally Posted by Sir C
Lost to Ferguson 22 times, included in which was that classic 8-2 raping. Most of those losses coming more towards the end. Let’s face it, they are the one team who have consistently pissed on our chips.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
Would’ve loved to see Wenger with Mustafi & Xhaka as his centre halves loooooool
Thank god he didn’t leave Unai with Igors and Sqillachi
Young Gwen could play in a back three imo. Bringing the ball out and swaggering around like Luiz. Stick Mavropanos back in there too. Smith-Rowe instead of Ramsey and booyaka Saka on the left. Let’s get this show on the road. :fullrebuild: :cloud9:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony C
Oh shìt. Did we concede 8 again?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
He never played Xhaka at Center half against two super quick forwards. Unlike the ****ing moron on our touch line last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony C
he'd have served up the same gutless ****Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
give us your post code C, I need to **** someone and your first*
*how old and unfit are you? And no cheating with help from that bruiser Berni
Word 7sis, don't forget the 6-1Quote:
Originally Posted by 7sisters
Right. But what other options did the moron have ? We have 6 centre halves and 5 appear to now be injured.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC East
We have an LB and a midfielder playing as an RB. ( and rather well I thought, last night ).
We were chasing a cup game, not looking to shore up league points. He gambled on increasing the attack and risked a counter.
United laid two rows of four laid across in their box, while we mostly had 3 on 3 with their counters.
He gave it a go and lost but any manager would suffer with our defensive injury crisis.
Spurs look half the side upfront with Kane and Son out. Liverpool, United and Chelsea have gone the season virtually injury free. ( Chelsea seem to do this year on year btw )
**** happens :shrug:
Yes...let’s just totally ignore all of the injuries.
Holding - out for a year
Monreal - played only a handful this season
Koscielny- seemingly back and then kicked in the head
Sokratis - main man gone last night
Bellerin - career might be over
2 of them last night
Wenger never had to deal with backline injuries like that.
Of wait...he did...Luzhny & Igors in a 6-1 raping at Old Trafford.
At least the new man keeps it competitive.
It was a miracle we didn’t concede 5 or 6. An in form Pogba would have created another 3 or 4 goals.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7sisters
To put Xhaka back there against that pace was suicide. Ole must have wet himself laughing at that point. We were incredibly fortunate to lose by 2. Xhaka has demonstrated he isn’t comfortable there. We needed more pace. Bringing Maitland-Niles inside was an option, even Monreal is quicker and a better CB than Xhaka.
Mind you Torreira was doing a good Coquelin impression by getting too far ahead of the call time and time again. There was no rush at that point.
What utter f@cking nonsense. You do realise that Charles is on a wind up right? It’s actually only you that believes this garbage.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC East
At 80 minutes we were 2-1 down and had controlled the majority of the match. Unai had it spot on, we just let ourselves down in the ‘final action’, just one of those days. Considering the defenders we were missing and that it could be argued that Cech might have done better on all three goals it is absurd to suggest Unai did anything wrong.
Unlike the Wenger days, there was no capitulation, no 8-2 or 6-1 hammering. The days of getting murdered by top four teams are now finally over it seems. Well done Unai.
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Originally Posted by AFC East
What should Emery have done inn those circumstances?
I must say this is how I saw it too my moose bothering friend.
I spotted early in the second half that the Gods of Football had decided agin us. Nearly every could've gone anywhere ball favoured United and I realised the cruel deities would also prevent us from . This used to be called the rub of the green.
psssst, we lost 5-1 to Liverpool a few weeks agoQuote:
Originally Posted by WES
We do tend to be rather unlucky against Manchester united. A lot :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman
The board fired him, C. Not us.
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Originally Posted by Sir C
so I won't complain.Quote:
Originally Posted by IUFG
Let the man work through his pain r. He clearly loved the old tit and concurred with his idea the a goal was worthless unless preceded by 20 minutes of intricate passing.
Seen. Will do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman
Mostly :-)
Didn't have to be 20 mins, Herb. Just intricate. Jack vs Norwich, that Ozil to Rambo kung fu kick against some Ruskies or other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman
I don't care if we lose, as long as we score some sexy goals. We can't compete financially, so let's just play 11 midget no.10s and hope for the best.
Sir Alex Ferguson noted in his 2013 autobiography that United had developed a reliable formula to overcome Arsenal in the post-Invincibles age. Wenger won one of his last 13 league fixtures at Old Trafford and, during that time, Ferguson lost only four of his last 18 contests with Arsenal, winning 11.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
"In later years we learned more about Arsenal’s thinking," Ferguson reflected in 2013. "Arsene had a template of how he sees his players and the way they play. We didn’t need to win the ball against Arsenal, we needed to intercept it. You need good players who can intercept.
We had a lot of possession without purpose, but yes, we were still well in the game until he put Xhaka at CB. From that point on they looked like scoring every time they got the ball. Ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by WES
Blaming it on Cech raised a smile, so well done on that.
Xhaka?Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC East
Given that the only other defensive options on the bench were Lichtsteiner or a rusty Monreal, Emery was between a rock and a hard place.
He didn't blame Cech per se, merely has pointed out or suggested that he might have done better. Certainly his role in goal 3 was very poor.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC East
Just one of those games AFC.
A bad night in N5 against a team absolutely buzzing with confidence at the moment, a very good team also to be fair.
I would disagree with WES on his assertion that we had controlled the majority of the game, a lot of possession but invariably a desire for one pass too many. Never really opened them up.
Cech was at fault for the third goal, but so was the entire defensive unit. I can see no blame to him for the other two.Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
Indeed, we didn't open them up often. We lacked a player with a range of insightful passing.
As for Xhaka, we were clearly going to be facing pace. Monreal or AMN would have given us a better option. Xhaka has never looked remotely comfortable against quality at CB and was always going to be roasted if they won possession.
You are a different creature to Sir C. He finds goal scoring, and the attendant fuss surrounding the event, somewhat unseemly and vulgar. An English gentleman abhors triumphalism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
I am not disagreeing with you on GX at centre-half but his lack of pace was not the issue for the 3rd goal.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC East
Pogba picked the ball up after it was carelessly lost by a combination of Lacazatte and Ozil, he then ran over half the pitch (at pace) right through the centre of our midfield and was not once challenged or even threatened with a challenge.
Have a look again and watch how Guendozi and Ozil make their way back and compare to Pogba. Guendozi in particular was not even ahead of the play when possession was lost.
Xhaka backed off, pace was not the problem.
Even then when the shot was badly parried out to Martial who puts it away the cameras keep running and still no sign of AMN in the right back position (he had actually been ahead of the ball when we lost it).
Plenty of errors but singling out GX in this case is incorrect.
They didn’t really set up with a team filled with confidence and superiority over the opposition either. Their tactic was mostly to throw two lines of 4 across the back and hit us on the break.Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
It rewarded them the result but not in the fashion of City, who sweep teams aside with invention and flair.
This was a game that could have gone either way. I heard the commentator mention that we could consider ourselves unlucky on the night.
United took their chances well by mostly playing on the back foot. The post match media nonsense about them being too good for us was utter drivel.
No, I disagree. I saw us controlling the game and getting into plenty of dangerous positions, the build up play through midfield was very good. This was not endless sideways passing with no threat. The problem was that the final ball or the finish required just wasn't there, it was one of those days. Their ability to hit us on the break was a result of too much commitment going forward at times (Emery still has to work this one out) and too many really bad defenders (hardly surprising given what we he inherited and the injury crisis).Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC East
Cech was responsible for the 3rd goal. If you watch the 2nd goal he makes a small movement to his right just as Lindgard starts to pass the ball into the goal, not convinced he couldn't have got to it had he read it better. And he seemed slow off his line for the first. However both those goals were primarily the result of appalling defending; Kos for the first, Kolasinac for the second.
Watch Kos for the first goal. I find it staggering that a 33 year old international defender can leave his position like that. Lord knows what went through his mind (very little I expect).
You fagg. Go off and find Wenger's sh!t to wipe all over your buttocks. There's a good fellow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
I'm not sure I singled out Xhaka for the goal. Torreira and Guendozi were the two that came to mind at the time, poor Xhaka had no idea what to do with himself as he often doesn't at CB. On reflection Cech was culpable.Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
The point I am making is that a fluent Man U could have taken us apart a further 4 or 5 times. Losing possession when pressing is one of those things.
It happens to all teams when chasing. Xhaka's lack of pace forced us to leave an enormous gap between defence and midfield, this gave Pogba around 50 metres to run into freely. Especially, as you say when Guendozi and Torreira had seemingly forgotten that creation isn't the main part of their role.
We will agree to disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by WES
Yep, all fair and balanced points.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC East
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