Interesting way to spin this story, given the fact that the NHS comes second last in

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Anyway.... the NHS comes out top overall and scores well in every category apart from the ‘everybody dying’ category.

Also note that category focuses on preventable diseases and mortality across a population, and NOT specifically on outcomes from NHS care.

It suggests an ageing, unhealthy, disease-ridden population rather than an incompetent, bureaucratic health care system. In other words, the NHS is doing a reasonable job but people are dying anyway.

Overall, proof it is the best healthcare system in the world.

And that everybody dies…..

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So a National Health Service bears no responsibility for the overall health of the nation's population? Interesting way of looking at it...

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That's a sweeping generalisation, you know.

There are a lot of very hard-working people patching up the wounded and repairing the ill. The fact that I've had some negative experiences myself does not turn me against the organisation as a whole.

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Well said A.

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That's a sweeping generalisation, you know.

There are a lot of very hard-working people patching up the wounded and repairing the ill.

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No-one said there weren't. And I'm sure that's just as much the case in other, better healthcare systems.

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I'll take that. :-) They should use that as a slogan.

Of course I won't be boring enough to point out that it's anything but free. That would be tedious.

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Ryanair isn't free but it may as well be when compared to other airlines. It’s also ****, you have to sit next to disease-ridden scum hacking their guts up and you stand a reasonable chance of being killed.

The NHS of the skies ;)

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So a National Health Service bears no responsibility for the overall health of the nation's population? Interesting way of looking at it...

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I didn't say that. I think my point is that you cant polish a turd.

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No-one said there weren't. And I'm sure that's just as much the case in other, better healthcare systems.

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Which according to your survey, don't exist.

Best in the world, b.

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That's a sweeping generalisation, you know.

There are a lot of very hard-working people patching up the wounded and repairing the ill. The fact that I've had some negative experiences myself does not turn me against the organisation as a whole.

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I wasn't being serious.

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Ryanair isn't free but it may as well be when compared to other airlines. It’s also ****, you have to sit next to disease-ridden scum hacking their guts up and you stand a reasonable chance of being killed.

The NHS of the skies ;)

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Great for a 45 minute jaunt over to Stansted all the same.

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Which according to your survey, don't exist.

Best in the world, b.

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Yes. That league table is rather like a Premier League table that takes in a range of factors other than the outcomes of games, of course.

Arsenal would always win in such a system.

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So a National Health Service bears no responsibility for the overall health of the nation's population? Interesting way of looking at it...

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Yeah but too much of that gets into the whole 'preventative' thing, which is a slippery slope. Telling us how much we should be drinking (two pints a week max) and so on.