Just watched the woman from accross the way take twenty minutes to get her car

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Originally Posted by Sir C

Oh, you're absolutely right, and the improvement in the safety, efficiency and comfort of motor vehicles is entirely laudable and nigh on miraculous. I just think it would be better if people learnt to drive on a 1973 Ford Escort Popular, then got to appreciate a modern vehicle, equipped with a much better understanding of the car and with the skills to truly control the vehicle.

Obviously such a thing is never going to happen. Where the fúck would we find a load of 1973 Ford Escorts, for Christ's sake. I'm just saying, like.

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I do agree. I'm one of the people who learned in the period you describe and will admit that what I've learned about driving in snow I learned the hard way. That first realisation that rather than the highly responsive machine that goes where you point it you're used to, you're in a large, unwieldy lump of metal whose major motive force is inertia can be a bit of an eye-opener.

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Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman

Rugged, manly types like Sir C and I simply roll up our sleeves to expose our beefy forearms and change the fecking tyre ourselves. Any women watching become profoundly moist at the sight of it.

Fops like Berni call the AA and do a 'damsel in distress' routine then sit there filing their nails for four hours waiting for the real man to turn up and change it for them.

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I pay for my membership of the AA. Why would I bother my arse getting dirty when it's what I pay them for?

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Originally Posted by Burney

I do agree. I'm one of the people who learned in the period you describe and will admit that what I've learned about driving in snow I learned the hard way. That first realisation that rather than the highly responsive machine that goes where you point it you're used to, you're in a large, unwieldy lump of metal whose major motive force is inertia can be a bit of an eye-opener.

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How many 'ikkle kiddies had to perish under your wheels before you finally learned?

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Originally Posted by Burney

I pay for my membership of the AA. Why would I bother my arse getting dirty when it's what I pay them for?

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To be fair, you can change a wheel comfortable in 10 minutes and get a bit messy, or sit scratching your árse for an hour and a half waiting for an AA man... generally I've got somewhere I'd rather be than the side of a road.

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Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman

How many 'ikkle kiddies had to perish under your wheels before you finally learned?

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None. I did glide elegantly into a high kerb at one point, but that was about it. Actually, on the occasion I remember on the M25 (about 6/7 years ago, I think), the greater danger was actually people in RWD cars simply skidding across lanes in front of you.

I see you don't deny filing your nails while you await their arrival b. Do you flirt with the AA man while he changes your tyre?

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Originally Posted by Burney

None. I did glide elegantly into a high kerb at one point, but that was about it. Actually, on the occasion I remember on the M25 (about 6/7 years ago, I think), the greater danger was actually people in RWD cars simply skidding across lanes in front of you.

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You can't have fun in a front wheel drive car, b. It's a known fact. SCIENCE FACT.

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Originally Posted by Sir C

To be fair, you can change a wheel comfortable in 10 minutes and get a bit messy, or sit scratching your árse for an hour and a half waiting for an AA man... generally I've got somewhere I'd rather be than the side of a road.

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Pfff. If you do that, you give these semi-skilled workers nothing to do and feel superior about. Then they go home, feel depressed about their lives, drink heavily and beat their wives/abuse their children. Do you really want that on your conscience?

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Originally Posted by Sir C

Yes. Of course people like you should be forced to learn to change a tyre in the pissing rain at the side of a motorway in February. You should be taught to break down in the snow whilst on your way to a job interview, leaving you to check HT leads, remove the distributor cap, change the condensor, gap the points, remove the plugs and clean them and gap them... all of this would show you how piss easy you've got it.

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I'd quite happily do it, but of course now you don't get a proper spare.

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Originally Posted by Burney

Pfff. If you do that, you give these semi-skilled workers nothing to do and feel superior about. Then they go home, feel depressed about their lives, drink heavily and beat their wives/abuse their children. Do you really want that on your conscience?

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Like I give a fúck about tradesmen.