the unobtrusive, orderly manner in which they filed up the steps to leave the stadium
the unobtrusive, orderly manner in which they filed up the steps to leave the stadium
It is a bit weird how it's entirely socially acceptable (or at least tolerated) to hurl all kind of abuse at footballers, but we're not allowed to be racist to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viva Prat Vegas
I don't really have a problem with racism inside football stadiums. It's just part of the pantomime :shrug:
I was wondering about that. What happened? Did teacher get up and say "Whoever was making the bad noises go and stand outside the Headmaster's office NOW!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Viva Prat Vegas
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Originally Posted by Monty92
Erm, if he's particularly offended by anti-semitic chanting at football, do you think he might have chosen a different club to support? I mean, he must have grown up in a permanent state of outrage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman
It's pretty common to see fans buggering off at half time when their team's getting battered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
Which seems an apt time to remember that Maputo Gooner left Old Trafford when we were 6-1 down at half time, the w*nker.
Now he was a strange lad. I suppose he's a grown up now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
Of course. it's all just sh*thousery and banter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman
As a society we all acknowledge that football fans operate under entirely different social rules once they step inside a stadium. I don't see why we should tolerate tens of thousands of fans calling a footballer a **** for having dared to move club or acquire a reputation for cheating, but then clutch our pearls if we call them a black **** :shrug:
I left at 7-2 and heard the 8th as I was crossing the bridgeQuote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
Dark days, psrb, dark fúcking days...Quote:
Originally Posted by PSRB
Wenger out, etc
One of their goals was offside, to be fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by IUFG
oh, I'd expect absolutely nothing else there, mQuote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
standard stuff innit
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I was in a pub quiz the other day where we got extra points for our offensive team name: Madeleine McCan't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
There are boundaries of what is acceptable and what isn't. Laughing at the rape and murder of a small girl is apparently ok. Racism not so.
Yes, although whether or not we find humour in that kind of stuff is is heavily nuanced and context-dependent, even within the narrow genre of kiddie rape and murder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
I think the reason Maddie is such a comedy goldmine is because of the whole circus surrounding the case, and the fact that her white middle class parents blatantly killed her, which *is* inherently funny.
There are other cases where small children were brutally murdered that you'd struggle to find any humour in.
You don't hear any jokes about Jamie Bulger, for example.
Well racism affects everyone of that race , laughing about an individual doesn't...that would be my penguin book of racism levelQuote:
Originally Posted by Ash
Madeline McCann is ripe to mine for humour content purely because hers is an unsolved case with no proven evidence as to any crimes attached to her
A bit like Shergar really
To this day he might be living it up on a stud farm somewhere in the Bhamas
The dental hygienist gave me a mirror to admire my teeth when he'd finished yesterday. I did a big grin and remarked, "Ah, that's what happened to Shergar" - not a flicker of recognition from the fellow. Mind you, he was about 23 and Indian. But imagine not remembering Shergar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viva Prat Vegas
He absolutely píssed that Derby.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Shergar. Not your unborn dentist.
It was odd, actually. I was tempted to ask him his story. His accent suggested that he is Indian, not Anglo-Indian. How does a young man from India end up washing teeth in a London suburb?Quote:
Originally Posted by IUFG
Not Shergar. The dentist bloke.
Yes, of course it is far worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pokster
I hadn't realised that they were actual neo-nazis, of the sort that our government supports in Ukraine.
I don't understand why everyone seems so revolted by 'neo-Nazis', whilst Socialists can merrily wave red flags and sing the Internazionale without anyone mentioning the pesky detail of 100 million victims. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
Normal rules don't apply to the left, sc. See antifaQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
It's the hypocrisy that I find unbelievable. Everyone wets their knickers because some random Bulgarians made a Nazi salute - meanwhile, Comrade McDonnell is an actual self-confessed Marxist... and daft ****s are prepared to vote for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by IUFG
It's bizarre.
This is what's known in some quarters as 'Whataboutery', I gather.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Besides, there have been left-wing governments who have not been run by Stalin, and not behaved remotely like him, however much they are demonised, and however much the oligarchs are furious that the wealth they nicked from the poor is redistributed to the poor.
Indeed. How does a multi cultural society move on to the next level when it’s only ok to abuse gingers :shrug:
Marx isn't Stalin. Or even Lenin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Making moral equivalence between Historical Materialism and Nazism is a substantial error imo.
That's right, those magnificent shining examples of the gentle loving nature of socialists, Mao, Pol Pot, Uncle Ho, dear Nicolae in Romania, cuddly Enver who made Albania such a paradise of redistributed wealth - and let's not forget our old chum Castro, who cleverly reduced and entire population to penury and locked them in so they had to try to escape on home-made rafts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
Were all these the wrong type of socialism?
I'm not sure that made much difference to the millions tortured and murdered by the twisted politics of envy, or even the millions living in misery in eastern Europe between 1945 and 1989.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
But hey, it'll be better next time when it's proper socialism, eh?
I saw it. I saw it in the flesh. It makes me angry.
Nothing went wrong under the Blair government, did it? :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
I’d love Jorge to be here to reply to the implication that Blair and his mates were socialists. :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by IUFG
Or were you taking the piss? :rubchin:
C, you're one of the few right-wingers here who've actually got a brain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
But if I really have to spell it out:
There has only been one soi disant Nazi regime in history. And pretty much everyone agrees that they weren't the most civilised of chaps.
Socialism is a much broader church. {Now let's ignore that most of the really bad lefties called themselves commies, not socialists, in the same way nazis are a sub-set of fascists who are a sub-set of right-wingers.}
Many of the left-of-centre parties in the EU claim to be socialists, but are basically centrists compared to Stalin.
The 1945-51 govt here claimed to be socialists. And:
1. The country they built was accepted and protected by those evil lefties that came after them; WSC, Eden and SuperMac.
2. They were brought down by the left of their own (democratically elected) party. Bevan over prescription charges.
The '64-70 likewise.
1. None of Heath, Maggie et al undid divorce, abortion or rights for poofs.
2. Again, that democratically-elected, soi disant socialist govt - whose progressive policies were accepted by the the following Tory govts - were undone by the hard left. The Unions rejected Barbara Castle's "In Place Of Strife" union reforms.
If you can't see the difference between Adolf and Atlee/Wilson, you haven't really thought this through.
Some "socialists" have killed more one their own than the Nazis.
Some "socialists" were democratically elected and introduced rights we now all, proper Tories included, accept.
All Nazi regimes (i.e. the only one) were a little beyond the pale.
Just cos I like footy, doesn't mean I agree with Harry Kane's right to live, does it?
Despite hating Tories, I think One Nation Conservatism has been a positive force in the history of our isles.
While the hard right of the Tory party are inherently evil and should all be gassed.
The left - "Socialism" in your terms - is but a mirror image.
Me? taking the píss?Quote:
Originally Posted by WES
tl:dr?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
Moderates of both the left and right are ok.
Anything further out from the centre than the above need euthanising.
I remember a chap you used to sit by me and when we played Chelsea he just kept shouting at Ashley Cole "who's your Father, who's your Father!" everytime he was taking a throw. You could see that it was effecting the ******* which was good for the Arsenal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
Because Old Blighty legitimised the Bolshevik slaughter by allying up with the beast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Exactly - Marx was much funnierQuote:
Originally Posted by Ash