buit isn't 241-8 a 'better' score than 241 all out?
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buit isn't 241-8 a 'better' score than 241 all out?
20 years ago, yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Essentially, now you have 10 wickets to get as many runs as you can, so you may as well use all of them :-)
No. In absolute terms they're the same score. A few years ago it would have been considered 'better' in the sense that winning was decided on wickets lost, but now they've gone for an equally arbitrary means of deciding between tied teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
The logic is that wickets lost unfairly penalises the chasing side because they will sometimes have to sacrifice wickets in order to achieve the total (as England did yesterday), while the side batting first won't generally do this. It's therefore considered better to use a measure that favours neither side and which encourages positive cricket.
Ultimately, any measure you use is silly and arbitrary, but you have to have something. :shrug: After all, you could equally argue that NZ should have lost the Super Over on the basis that they lost a wicket and England didn't.
I see, yes, hmm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
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Hmmm. Sounds interesting, but it appears to have been written by a girl :-(Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
We won get over it. Genuinely can't stop smiling this morning. People think I am illQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
That's the thing. You'd never know. it's got all the proper words and that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
And I have another winner for you. I'm on a roll at the moment. (it's v digging this stuff out of course.) https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sisters-Bro...gateway&sr=8-1
I'm pleased for you la, honestly I am!Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
It was absolutely ridiculous. The funny thing was, if we hadn't got over the line, I'd have been cursing Buttler and Stokes for not pushing the scoring along a bit earlier. I did feel they left us with too much to do - Stokes in particular was remiss, I felt. He made up for it with getting his bat in the way of that throw, though. :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
I can't help but feel bad for NZ, though. They have every right to feel aggrieved. They've been remarkably gracious considering.
New Zealand cricketers are genuinely wonderful people - all the absolute ****s play rugby and while I agree they were very hard done they can go **** themselves until at least one Kiwi shows any sort of remorse for the assault on Brian O'Driscoll in the 2004 Lions seriesQuote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Scott Styris, not so muchQuote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Agreed about Kiwi cricketers. Lovely chaps to play with. Certainly when compared to Aussies and Saffers, who are horrible fúckers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
I do remember that spear tackle on O'Driscoll - and it was an outrage - but I can't say it plays on my mind much. Even more of a disgrace was the ref for not sending both players involved off and the failure to cite them.
Yes, I heard that. I was listening to the replay of the radio commentary on the way in this morning and Jeremy Coney was having a bit of a whinge as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by PSRB
Did you do your oop norf trip yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
btw, you may have seen a photo of cricket-by-the-quaggy which I insisted someone include in their journal. ;-)
Never forget never forgive :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Watchman now has me in its dark pitiless grip and will not let me go. A tour de force no doubt but I have read things I cannot unread and I am now compelled to finish it knowing I will only encounter yet more Dante-esque horrors :-(Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
The privations of a Dickens are made to seem pleasant by comparison. It's back to Wodehouse for me after after this.
Got back on Saturday. Wonderful, wonderful place. oncentrated on the local fells to Dunnerdale so not much Wainwright bagging but such landscapes and the total lack of people... have booked to go back in September.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
I managed to get lost trying to get up Cold Pike in a cloud and ended up doing Grat Knott instead :hehe: #navigation
Cricket-by-the-quaggy? Journal? You're going to have to give me a little more here, a...
Just checked Facebook. I knew nothing of this Quaggy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
Yopu should have popped in for tea.
Weather ok I hope, to enjoy all the bucolic stuff, aside from the pesky mist. As long as you get down safely is all that mattress. And in the right valley.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
We saw some Old Elthamians playing cricket on Saturday, while on the Green Chain, by the mighty River Quaggy (more of a dirty trickle at the moment tbf). A photo was included in N’s FB post in case you noticed your old stomping grounds.
Weathjer was generally lovely. We lost two mornings to drizzle and had some pesky clouds one afternoon as mentioned, but generally it was sunny and 16 degrees - just cool enough for going uphill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
That's a relatively new venue for OE sports, oddly. Being so close to the school you'd imagine they've been there for donkey's years, but back in my day the OEs played at Foxbury, between Sidcup and Chislehurst.