That crash in Indonesia sort of ****ed my fear of flying method of booking

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10-29-2018, 01:15 PM
Billy Goat Sverige

That crash in Indonesia sort of ****ed my fear of flying method of booking

flights on the newest aircraft possible :-|
10-29-2018, 01:17 PM
Pat Vegas

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Originally Posted by Billy Goat Sverige

flights on the newest aircraft possible :-|

I always think new wons are due a crash. that's how to they make them betterer afterwards.
10-29-2018, 01:33 PM
Sir C

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Originally Posted by Billy Goat Sverige

flights on the newest aircraft possible :-|

Looks like they might have taken off with the pitot covers still on. :rolleyes:

Daft búggers.
10-29-2018, 01:35 PM
PSRB

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Originally Posted by Billy Goat Sverige

flights on the newest aircraft possible :-|

The Dreamliner had loads of near misses in it's 1st few months
10-29-2018, 01:36 PM
PSRB

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Originally Posted by Sir C

Looks like they might have taken off with the pitot covers still on. :rolleyes:

Daft búggers.

That's quite a common cause of aviation accidents, is it not?
10-29-2018, 01:40 PM
Pat Vegas

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Originally Posted by PSRB

The Dreamliner had loads of near misses in it's 1st few months

I have flown on this dreamliner.
don't see the big deal. still unpleasant.
Those dimmable windows are crap to never goes fully dark.
10-29-2018, 01:41 PM
Sir C

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Originally Posted by PSRB

That's quite a common cause of aviation accidents, is it not?

Well it has happened before... I wouldn't say it's common.

I've done it myuself several times :hide:
10-29-2018, 01:45 PM
Sir C

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Originally Posted by Pat Vegas

I have flown on this dreamliner.
don't see the big deal. still unpleasant.
Those dimmable windows are crap to never goes fully dark.

It's easily the most comfortable commercial aircraft in service, f. I've done about 10 trips on the 787 now and if travelling long haul I'll choose one operator over another if they're using it. It's so quiet and the environment is so much nicer because of the pressurisation being set so much lower. After dinner just set your seat to flat, get your blankie and pillow from a hostie, and I guarantee you'll sleep like a baby all the way there.
10-29-2018, 01:46 PM
Pat Vegas

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Originally Posted by Sir C

It's easily the most comfortable commercial aircraft in service, f. I've done about 10 trips on the 787 now and if travelling long haul I'll choose one operator over another if they're using it. It's so quiet and the environment is so much nicer because of the pressurisation being set so much lower. After dinner just set your seat to flat, get your blankie and pillow from a hostie, and I guarantee you'll sleep like a baby all the way there.

Still can't smoke on it though :cry:

until I kick the habit fully all travel is horrible for me.
10-29-2018, 01:47 PM
Billy Goat Sverige

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Originally Posted by Pat Vegas

I have flown on this dreamliner.
don't see the big deal. still unpleasant.
Those dimmable windows are crap to never goes fully dark.

I watched a video on YouTube of a business class flight on one of the Middle East airlines. They had separate rooms for each ticket and for the ones in the middle of the plane they installed fake windows that were screens being fed images from cameras outside of the plane. So they were getting a view of what they’d have seen were they actually in a window seat. ****ing mental.
10-29-2018, 01:49 PM
Billy Goat Sverige

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Originally Posted by Sir C

It's easily the most comfortable commercial aircraft in service, f. I've done about 10 trips on the 787 now and if travelling long haul I'll choose one operator over another if they're using it. It's so quiet and the environment is so much nicer because of the pressurisation being set so much lower. After dinner just set your seat to flat, get your blankie and pillow from a hostie, and I guarantee you'll sleep like a baby all the way there.

I usually fly from Stockholm to Heathrow on the new A320s with the quieter engines. It’s quite a weird feeling on takeoff hearing a high pitched whistle rather than a roar.
10-29-2018, 01:49 PM
Pat Vegas

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Originally Posted by Billy Goat Sverige

I watched a video on YouTube of a business class flight on one of the Middle East airlines. They had separate rooms for each ticket and for the ones in the middle of the plane they installed fake windows that were screens being fed images from cameras outside of the plane. So they were getting a view of what they’d have seen were they actually in a window seat. ****ing mental.

was it whenitraveltheworld on youtube? he is a friend of mine.
10-29-2018, 02:03 PM
Billy Goat Sverige

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Originally Posted by Pat Vegas

was it whenitraveltheworld on youtube? he is a friend of mine.

Can’t remember the account. It was a Chinese looking fella.
10-29-2018, 02:21 PM
Herbert Augustus Chapman

They don't have pitots on Chipmunks you lying old stoat

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Originally Posted by Sir C

Well it has happened before... I wouldn't say it's common.

I've done it myuself several times :hide:

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10-29-2018, 02:36 PM
Pokster

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Originally Posted by Sir C

Looks like they might have taken off with the pitot covers still on. :rolleyes:

Daft búggers.

Now obviously we all know what you are talking about... but for anyone logging on for the first time, what the hell are you on about?
10-29-2018, 02:41 PM
Sir C

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Originally Posted by Pokster

Now obviously we all know what you are talking about... but for anyone logging on for the first time, what the hell are you on about?

Little tube which pokes out of the aeroplane to determine how fast you're going. On the ground you put a little condom on it to stop waspies and so forth from entering the system. If you forget to remove said condom, you can't tell how fast you're going and soon enough, soankeroo will occur.
10-29-2018, 02:43 PM
Burney

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Originally Posted by Pokster

Now obviously we all know what you are talking about... but for anyone logging on for the first time, what the hell are you on about?

Pitot tubes. Effectively flowmeters that sit under the plane and measure airspeed. So if you have the covers on, you don't know how fast or slow you're going. This can end badly.
10-29-2018, 02:49 PM
Sir C

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Originally Posted by Burney

Pitot tubes. Effectively flowmeters that sit under the plane and measure airspeed. So if you have the covers on, you don't know how fast or slow you're going. This can end badly.

It's a pressure differential sensor to be honest.
10-29-2018, 02:50 PM
Luis Anaconda

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Originally Posted by Burney

Pitot tubes. Effectively flowmeters that sit under the plane and measure airspeed. So if you have the covers on, you don't know how fast or slow you're going. This can end badly.

Reminds me of Theo
10-29-2018, 02:51 PM
Herbert Augustus Chapman

What do you mean you can't tell how fast you are going? Just look out the feckin window and see how fast the clouds and birds are zipping by. Do you Airplane Johnnies ever actually fly sober?
10-29-2018, 02:52 PM
Burney

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Originally Posted by Sir C

It's a pressure differential sensor to be honest.

Yes, but still a flowmeter nonetheless.
10-29-2018, 02:55 PM
Burney

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Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman

What do you mean you can't tell how fast you are going? Just look out the feckin window and see how fast the clouds and birds are zipping by. Do you Airplane Johnnies ever actually fly sober?

When you're in a hairyplane, h, do you ever feel like you're bombing along at 500 mph? I'm guessing you don't. And if you ever do, you're probably in trouble. There's your problem, y'see?
10-29-2018, 03:10 PM
Sir C

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Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman

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Until the thirties airspeed was generally measured by a strut-mounted vane. This device was, as you can imagine, less than accurate and prone to huge position errors, but in a biplane with a stalling speed of 45kt and a VNE of 90kt this wasn't too much of a problem - anywhere in the middle would suffice for most purposes. Your 300 ton airliner is a different beast, sadly.
10-29-2018, 03:15 PM
Herbert Augustus Chapman

In a large airliner, especially at lower altitudes, is a stall basically curtains?
10-29-2018, 03:18 PM
Herbert Augustus Chapman

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Originally Posted by Burney

When you're in a hairyplane, h, do you ever feel like you're bombing along at 500 mph? I'm guessing you don't. And if you ever do, you're probably in trouble. There's your problem, y'see?

First time my boy flew, about 4 yrs old, fell fast asleep just before take off. Woke up an hour into the flight, looked out of the window and asked "why have we stopped?" Same problem.
10-29-2018, 03:21 PM
Herbert Augustus Chapman

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Originally Posted by Burney

Yes, but still a flowmeter nonetheless.

Actually no b. It is, as c rightly points out, an instrument that indicates the difference in air pressure of the two environments it monitors. That airspeed may be inferred from the data is undeniable, but that doesn't make it a flowmeter. A flowmeter measures actual flow. All in the name d'ye see?
10-29-2018, 03:26 PM
Sir C

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Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman

In a large airliner, especially at lower altitudes, is a stall basically curtains?

An airliner behaves like any other aircraft really, so it's simply a question of whether one has sufficient height to trade for airpseed. In short, the lower the height the less the chance of recovery. (Let us not go into possible complications of a deep stall scenario in a swept wing aircraft.)
10-29-2018, 03:29 PM
Sir C

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Originally Posted by Burney

Yes, but still a flowmeter nonetheless.

It may be, but in this circumstance the term is potentially misleading and unhelpful.
10-29-2018, 03:33 PM
Rich

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Originally Posted by Sir C

Little tube which pokes out of the aeroplane to determine how fast you're going. On the ground you put a little condom on it to stop waspies and so forth from entering the system. If you forget to remove said condom, you can't tell how fast you're going and soon enough, soankeroo will occur.

Need to fly to Newark in a couple of weeks with work and booking flights today or tomorrow. My choices seem to be BA, Virgin, Lufthansa or United. Who has the best business class setup of the four?
10-29-2018, 03:37 PM
Sir C

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Originally Posted by Rich

Need to fly to Newark in a couple of weeks with work and booking flights today or tomorrow. My choices seem to be BA, Virgin, Lufthansa or United. Who has the best business class setup of the four?

Lufthansa. The rest are utter shíte.
10-29-2018, 03:54 PM
Luis Anaconda

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Originally Posted by Sir C

Lufthansa. The rest are utter shíte.

You do realise I write a lot about planes and airlines for a living these days. Still know **** all about them tbh
10-29-2018, 03:58 PM
Sir C

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Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda

You do realise I write a lot about planes and airlines for a living these days. Still know **** all about them tbh

Do you? Are they queueing up to give you freebies?
10-29-2018, 04:01 PM
Luis Anaconda

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Originally Posted by Sir C

Do you? Are they queueing up to give you freebies?

Sadly not - even if they did I've no time to go anywhere. Did get to interview Per though*. Such a wonderfully nice man

*not about aircraft I should say
10-29-2018, 04:02 PM
Pat Vegas

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Originally Posted by Sir C

Lufthansa. The rest are utter shíte.

I have a meeting with them next week.
I have to go look at their new airbus or something.
rubbish trip to Frankufurt :-( leave early in the morning back by evening.
10-29-2018, 04:11 PM
Sir C

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Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda

Sadly not - even if they did I've no time to go anywhere. Did get to interview Per though*. Such a wonderfully nice man

*not about aircraft I should say

Oh top hole! He's been promoted to the executive, apparently. :kingper:
10-29-2018, 04:24 PM
Luis Anaconda

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Originally Posted by Sir C

Oh top hole! He's been promoted to the executive, apparently. :kingper:

There's a documentary on him here on DAZN which has all the football. They do love him here (except for Bayern fans obviously)

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