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07-12-2018, 11:57 AM
Herbert Augustus Chapman

"Free movement for students and skilled workers". Will someone keep berni and

charlie away from the gun cabinet.
07-12-2018, 12:14 PM
Monty92

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Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman

charlie away from the gun cabinet.

Doubt they'll be too upset with that specific concession.

If Cameron had come back with that from his original negotiations then Remain would have won by about 80%-20%
07-12-2018, 12:33 PM
IUFG

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Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman

charlie away from the gun cabinet.

who is going to work as waiters, cleaners, unskilled labourers, etc after December 2020?
07-12-2018, 12:53 PM
WES

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Originally Posted by IUFG

who is going to work as waiters, cleaners, unskilled labourers, etc after December 2020?

All the people who are out of work after the economy crashes post a hard Brexit?
07-12-2018, 12:53 PM
7sisters

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Originally Posted by Monty92

Doubt they'll be too upset with that specific concession.

If Cameron had come back with that from his original negotiations then Remain would have won by about 80%-20%

Spot on M. Although it amuses me the way that the EU is always labelled as the whipping boy for immigration.
Estimated non-EU net migration is 205,000 a year—the highest level recorded since 2011. It has been almost consistently higher than EU migration for decades.

These are the people that arrive, largely unskilled, and prove culturally the most difficult, and costly, to assimilate to our society.
07-12-2018, 12:55 PM
Sir C

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Originally Posted by IUFG

who is going to work as waiters, cleaners, unskilled labourers, etc after December 2020?

Well we used to manage before Blair imported half the world. :shrug:
07-12-2018, 01:02 PM
Billy Goat Sverige

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Originally Posted by 7sisters

Spot on M. Although it amuses me the way that the EU is always labelled as the whipping boy for immigration.
Estimated non-EU net migration, meanwhile, is 205,000 a year—the highest level recorded since 2011. It has been almost consistently higher than EU migration for decades.

But the majority of non-eu immigrants are either workers or students, no? Start complaining when you get 160,000 refugees arriving in one year, ready to suck on your welfare teats.
07-12-2018, 02:06 PM
IUFG

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Originally Posted by Billy Goat Sverige

But the majority of non-eu immigrants are either workers or students, no? Start complaining when you get 160,000 refugees arriving in one year, ready to suck on your welfare teats.

Now, why do, say, Romanians come to the UK for work when their domestic rate of unemployment is 4.6%
The UK has unemployment levels of 4.5% and that is typically described as 'almost full employment' (I think you need a certaim amount of unemployment for economics to work properly).

Whereas, EU states with the highest levels of unemployment (Italy, Greece, Spain) you hardly see any immigrants coming to the UK.

So, in short, a lot of EU nationals come to this country for work which they could easily find at home.

Do the UK pay more? ie is our National Living Wage more than a Polish or Latvian worker would get? If so, how does a fúcking common market actually work?

Is it free healthcare in the UK that draws them?

Is it the UK's benefit system?

Who knows?

The only thing I know is . . . it ain't the fúcking weather.
07-12-2018, 02:10 PM
Pat Vegas

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Originally Posted by IUFG

Now, why do, say, Romanians come to the UK for work when their domestic rate of unemployment is 4.6%
The UK has unemployment levels of 4.5% and that is typically described as 'almost full employment' (I think you need a certaim amount of unemployment for economics to work properly).

Whereas, EU states with the highest levels of unemployment (Italy, Greece, Spain) you hardly see any immigrants coming to the UK.

So, in short, a lot of EU nationals come to this country for work which they could easily find at home.

Do the UK pay more? ie is our National Living Wage more than a Polish or Latvian worker would get? If so, how does a fúcking common market actually work?

Is it free healthcare in the UK that draws them?

Is it the UK's benefit system?

Who knows?

The only thing I know is . . . it ain't the fúcking weather.

there is a massive amount of Italians in the UK.
London is flooded with them. Walk around Muswell hill they are all italians.
07-12-2018, 02:15 PM
IUFG

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Originally Posted by Pat Vegas

there is a massive amount of Italians in the UK.
London is flooded with them. Walk around Muswell hill they are all italians.

Well, London isn't very representative of the UK as a whole, is it?
07-12-2018, 02:15 PM
Sir C

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Originally Posted by IUFG

Now, why do, say, Romanians come to the UK for work when their domestic rate of unemployment is 4.6%
The UK has unemployment levels of 4.5% and that is typically described as 'almost full employment' (I think you need a certaim amount of unemployment for economics to work properly).

Whereas, EU states with the highest levels of unemployment (Italy, Greece, Spain) you hardly see any immigrants coming to the UK.

So, in short, a lot of EU nationals come to this country for work which they could easily find at home.

Do the UK pay more? ie is our National Living Wage more than a Polish or Latvian worker would get? If so, how does a fúcking common market actually work?

Is it free healthcare in the UK that draws them?

Is it the UK's benefit system?

Who knows?

The only thing I know is . . . it ain't the fúcking weather.

It's just salary differentials, innit. Vlad from Bucharest can come and work as a hod carrier for a year, live ina room with 18 other Romanians, and fúck off home with enough money to build himself a house. Mind you, I believe many of them realise what squalid shítholes places like Romania are and decide to stay here, where they may be skint but they won't die of the fúcking Black Death.
07-12-2018, 02:16 PM
Pat Vegas

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Originally Posted by IUFG

Well, London isn't very representative of the UK as a whole, is it?

I only know about London and essex.
07-12-2018, 02:19 PM
IUFG

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Originally Posted by Sir C

It's just salary differentials, innit.

Whilst I understand that is probably the main reason, surely the cost of living is higher in the UK?

If it isn't a) a common market can't really work and b) a common currency (the Euro, for example) has no fúcking chance if its value varies from country to country.
07-12-2018, 02:23 PM
Sir C

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Originally Posted by IUFG

Whilst I understand that is probably the main reason, surely the cost of living is higher in the UK?

If it isn't a) a common market can't really work and b) a common currency (the Euro, for example) has no fúcking chance if its value varies from country to country.

The cost of living is higher for us because we're used to the little luxuries in life, like heating and hot water and proper food.

And obviously the common market and the euro don't work. Have you been asleep for the past 20 years?
07-12-2018, 02:26 PM
IUFG

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Originally Posted by Sir C

Have you been asleep for the past 20 years?

only for about a third of it.
07-12-2018, 02:44 PM
Luis Anaconda

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Originally Posted by Sir C

The cost of living is higher for us because we're used to the little luxuries in life, like heating and hot water and proper food.

And obviously the common market and the euro don't work. Have you been asleep for the past 20 years?

Yeah, life here is terrible. Wish I was back in the UK spendinh **** loads of worthless money on beer and food
07-12-2018, 02:49 PM
Sir C

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Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda

Yeah, life here is terrible. Wish I was back in the UK spendinh **** loads of worthless money on beer and food

Hmm, Germany is quite different to Romania, la.

You really are in a bad mood today and it's making you awfully rude.

You should be ashamed of yourself. Talking to your friends so disrespectfully.

Now sit quietly and think about what you have done.
07-12-2018, 03:15 PM
Peter

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Originally Posted by Monty92

Doubt they'll be too upset with that specific concession.

If Cameron had come back with that from his original negotiations then Remain would have won by about 80%-20%

It isnt Brexit though is it. Because Brexit means Brexit and it doesnt include this.
07-12-2018, 03:54 PM
Alberto Balsam Rodriguez

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Originally Posted by 7sisters

Spot on M. Although it amuses me the way that the EU is always labelled as the whipping boy for immigration.
Estimated non-EU net migration is 205,000 a year—the highest level recorded since 2011. It has been almost consistently higher than EU migration for decades.

These are the people that arrive, largely unskilled, and prove culturally the most difficult, and costly, to assimilate to our society.

non-EU immigrants..... largely unskilled..... are you sure about that?
07-12-2018, 03:54 PM
Monty92

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Originally Posted by Peter

It isnt Brexit though is it. Because Brexit means Brexit and it doesnt include this.

You seem to be preaching to the choir here.
07-12-2018, 03:58 PM
Peter

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Originally Posted by Monty92

You seem to be preaching to the choir here.

Never really understood that phrase. The choir just do the singing. Who said they were the truest of believers?