What a load of old ****....
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What a load of old ****....
Great example of a bowler who becomes much much better out of the team. People banging on about how he should have played in the Ashes (despite the fact he was injured) do so on the basis that he used to bowl 90mph-plus. Due to injuries he doesn't do that anymore and he doesn't get much movement through the air or off the pitch so basically he just bowls at a nice pace to the middle of the bat. Pretty good reason to drop him. Although I fancy the real reason is that Woakes bolsters the battingQuote:
Originally Posted by Peter
He bowls quicker than the rest of the attack and does hit 88-89 fairly regularly. He also bowls a very consistent line. THe issue is getting him to bowl the right length for conditions. He was bowling far too short in New Zealand and when he went fuller he tended to over pitch. They just need to sort that out with him. And he can bat.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
Rather than persevere we return to Woakes......and this Curran lad.
THe recall of Jennings didnt fill me with confidence either.
Child’s play imo...Tymal is still the fastest I’ve seen...get him in there :clap:
Blimey - that's a defence so weak Mustafi wouldn't look out of place in it. Your advocacy is more condemning than my criticism. You actually admit he can't bowl it in the right place to challenge a batsman - that's a pretty big flaw. And that pace simply isn't enough to challenge top class batsmen - you need to be 95/96 mph to get in on pace alone and he can't do thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Peter
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Originally Posted by Tony C
Can't even get through a T20 game, t. Sad seens last night
Are you drunk? Nobody bowls at 95/96 and I didnt say he cant challenge batsmen. My point was that in some conditions you need to bowl fuller and he needs to work on that to get it right. I am saying there is plenty there to work with and he offers something the others dont.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
He is not alone in not bowling full enough when the conditions demand it. Broad and Anderson have regularly been criticised (quite rightly) for the same failures in recent years.
Johnson did - Stark can. Rabada can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
These are your own words: The issue is getting him to bowl the right length for conditions. He was bowling far too short in New Zealand and when he went fuller he tended to over pitch.
As I said a pretty big flaw. Broad and Anderson have over 1,500 first class wickets between them - I would suggest they get it right more often than not. Mark Wood is 28 and has 139.
In your first test for years I would say it isn't the end of the world. You yourselfsaid Woakes was in to bolster the batting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
I just find it frustrating that he has been discarded after two tests. Back to the same old trundlers who can bolster the batting.
I find it very frustrating but don't think Wood is the answer any more. I am actually a big fan of his but I fear injuries have taken the extra bite from his bowling. Woakes is actually a decent player though - better than a trundler. And good to get a left-armer in Curran in there -Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
And he's livened up a a bit :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
Now might be a good time to admit I would not have played Woakes orBroad today. So that is four wickets gone :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
Woakes is a decent player and has done well here. I think a lot about bowlers to bowl alongside Broad and Anderson that offer something different but we are only a year or two away from having to replace one/both of them. Long term, Woakes could be a good option.
I just worry about what happens around selection. It feels like the bad old days where we chop and change and pick players on form.
Maybe we should go the Somerset route and just prepare raging bunsens and let Bess and Leach do the work. Very promising leggy at Lancashire as well. Jennings, Hameed, Root play spin well...Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
Who was the leggy who played in the Ashes? He had a nice action.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
Mason Crane - hasn't really had a game for Hampshire this seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by Peter
Mason Crane - Hampshire boy. Bowls the odd rank long hop but which leggies don’t?Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
Been excited about Sam Curran for a long time. He’ll be a big player for England and make no mistake.
Also look out for a kid from the colts of my club back home. Tom Barber... playing for Middlesex at the moment.
He's reputedly the quickest bowling in England and a left-armer to boot - unfortunately he proved rather ineffective on his debut against Sussex last month - hopefullly he'll get another chanceQuote:
Originally Posted by Rich