film about...DUNKIRK. :banghead:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...ion/482574001/
The world's gone mental.
film about...DUNKIRK. :banghead:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...ion/482574001/
The world's gone mental.
But no mention of the glaring lack of trans and genderfluid Muslims? :banghead:Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
This film is a fúcking disgrace!
The Guardian's review has some nice anti-UK Guardianisms btl :hehe:
I liked the fact that the reviewer couldn't stop himself from shoehorning in a mention of Brexit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
They really are such predictable twāts.
Surely there was room for a bit of 1940's totty, and a token black character? It is a Hollywood war film. I'm guessing the US Marine Core features quite heavily?Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
The funny thing is that it will almost certainly flop in the states due to not involving any Americans. They don't like to be reminded there was a Second World War before they pitched up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Trent
Just call it a 'prequel to Pearl Harbour', they'll love it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
A Second World War that we were losing before they turned up. I think we can sell them that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
I always had great fun in the States reminding them that Stalin defeated Hitler. Much foaming at mouth ;)
Here is an absolute classic Guardian reader :clap: Could it be jorge?Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
"The problem with historical war and religious films is that the stories present a narrative that is often untrue and misleading. In the case of WW2, historical evidence proves the UK was instrumental in provoking the war, after Hitler had sought peace and agreement with Poland. Britain interfered and ensured the poles didn't make any agreement with Germany, which resulted in the war. That said, Nolan is a terrific filmmaker and no doubt the film will stand out for technical excellence."
The Allies defeated Hitler. Stalin had the luxuries of being able to trade space for time, the Russian weather, and almost unlimited manpower, but without the material assistance of the allies providing equipment and tying up German forces on other fronts, he would probably have been fúcked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
But you knew that, didn't you? And I've just bitten :-(
We were just about hanging on in there. Hitler had his hands full with Russia by then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
With regard to the specific instance of Poland, it isn't completely inaccurate. It just ignores the context and that it makes it fantastically stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
That was the line that weird provo lunatic Fast Eddie used to peddle on here. Maybe he's moved on to The Guardian?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
The sheer level of delusion necessary to interpret Hitler's land grabs in Eastern Europe as a response to British aggression is simply astounding.
True. America's involvement was crucial in limiting Russian influence in Europe at the end of the war. The outcome of Germany's war was effectively decided the moment he attacked Russia. It might have taken longer and been messier but the result was only going one way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Nah. We helped them out but once you attack Russia you are ****ed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Thing is, he was never not going to attack Russia. He wrote a fúcking great big book telling everyone he was going to attack Russia. It was very much at the heart of the whole Nazi Germany thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
Vast numbers of American trucks and jeeps were absolutely vital in allowing Russia to going on the offensive. Without them, Russia could never have counter-attacked successfully.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
True. The bloke had issues, no question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
It is slightly offensive that he couldn't be arsed to invade us ;)
No. You just sit in Moscow and wait for the other lot to freeze to death. Then you bring in them geezers on skis to see off the rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Piece of piss.
Had the Germans been able to concentrate on a single enemy they would have been the ones sitting in Moscow when that first winter fell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
As you well know, he was told by his senior naval figures that an attempt to invade us could well have ended with complete disaster. The Kriegsmarine was in no shape to protect an invasion fleet from the Royal Navy, having lost a lot of its destroyers in Norway and, even if the Luftwaffe had had air superiority, the losses the Grand Fleet could have inflicted on an invasion would have been potentially disastrous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
I once read the views of an Admiral about the summer of 1940; he said the Navy was positively licking its lips at the thought of hundreds of Rhine barges being towed at 4kts across the channel. "There would be no need for shooting," he maintained, "we'd simply have sunk them with our wash."Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
And for once he listened to them. Everyone told him not to invade Russia. **** wouldn't listen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney