We will not be buying Joe Hart anyway #WengerPresser

Sorry if that's disappointing news to anyone here :-|

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Sorry if that's disappointing news to anyone here :-|

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Oh god, I'd forgotten about Arsenal for the past couple of days. Do we have to play a match this weekend or are we going to get special dispensation on the grounds of acute sh*tc*ntery?

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Sorry if that's disappointing news to anyone here :-|

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ffs - another presser, does that mean another game at the weekend #toomuchfootball

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Oh god, I'd forgotten about Arsenal for the past couple of days. Do we have to play a match this weekend or are we going to get special dispensation on the grounds of acute sh*tc*ntery?

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I gather the team intends to pass by the Emirates on Saturday lunchtime on its way to the shops. The idea is, I think, to pop in and pick up three points and perhaps a spot of lunch.

Relaxed, you see. The title is still very much on.

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ffs - another presser, does that mean another game at the weekend #toomuchfootball

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So much for doing our talking on the pitch. Maybe we should try playing our football in the press conferences :rubchin:

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So much for doing our talking on the pitch. Maybe we should try playing our football in the press conferences :rubchin:

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:hehe: anymore questions? no? then he blasts a ball around the room.

I was completely unaware until Monday/Tuesday of this week that Bayern are very much on the horizon.

At least we only have Hull this weekend so can rest players in preparation.

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I was completely unaware until Monday/Tuesday of this week that Bayern are very much on the horizon.

At least we only have Hull this weekend so can rest players in preparation.

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Hull City is more difficult than Bayern, imo. You know where you are with them, whereas Hull are capable of anything.

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I was completely unaware until Monday/Tuesday of this week that Bayern are very much on the horizon.

At least we only have Hull this weekend so can rest players in preparation.

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We should rest players v Bayern for the Sutton match - Munich is in turmoil. Uli and Karl-Heinz might have to get their boots on

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Hull City is more difficult than Bayern, imo. You know where you are with them, whereas Hull are capable of anything.

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I am not comparing ease of victory my Anglo-French-German friend (you’re a bit of a mystery R, in a good way).

We are not going to win the Premiership, we all know that, even Arsene I suspect.

We could believe it or not win the CL and to do so we need to maximise our chances v Bayern, so we need our very best 11. Does that require resting some this weekend, perhaps not. They have had a week off in advance.

In a slight twist to your opening sentence I would suggest you need to be a better team to win the PL than you do to win the CL.

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I am not comparing ease of victory my Anglo-French-German friend (you’re a bit of a mystery R, in a good way).

We are not going to win the Premiership, we all know that, even Arsene I suspect.

We could believe it or not win the CL and to do so we need to maximise our chances v Bayern, so we need our very best 11. Does that require resting some this weekend, perhaps not. They have had a week off in advance.

In a slight twist to your opening sentence I would suggest you need to be a better team to win the PL than you do to win the CL.

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:nod: Leicester are much better than Real Madrid.

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:nod: Leicester are much better than Real Madrid.

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The level of consistency to win a 38 game campaign is higher than that needed to win a cup competition.

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:nod: Leicester are much better than Real Madrid.

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Indeed. You never see Real Madrid winning the Premier League, do you.

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I am not comparing ease of victory my Anglo-French-German friend (you’re a bit of a mystery R, in a good way).

We are not going to win the Premiership, we all know that, even Arsene I suspect.

We could believe it or not win the CL and to do so we need to maximise our chances v Bayern, so we need our very best 11. Does that require resting some this weekend, perhaps not. They have had a week off in advance.

In a slight twist to your opening sentence I would suggest you need to be a better team to win the PL than you do to win the CL.

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I just mean that the league games must always be paramount and we should allow the cup competitions to take care of themselves. The players and the club would probably disagree though mind.

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The level of consistency to win a 38 game campaign is higher than that needed to win a cup competition.

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It certainly is. Whether consistency is harder to achieve than brilliance is another question.

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Indeed. You never see Real Madrid winning the Premier League, do you.

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and what makes you think they can't win the premier league my friend? :vsign: :driving: ;-)

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It certainly is. Whether consistency is harder to achieve than brilliance is another question.

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In a way, they're one and the same thing. Leicester City's consistency last season could be described as "brilliant" certainly. Whereas Real Madrid's brilliance failed to win them their own league; clearly they were lacking a little bit the consistency.

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I just mean that the league games must always be paramount and we should allow the cup competitions to take care of themselves. The players and the club would probably disagree though mind.

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I have always personally though the League more important than CL and put more value in (hoping to) win the thing.

Others I know are almost obsessed with European success as it is largely seen as being the pinnacle of club football, certainly players seem to think so. It is also missing from our CV and is one reason why we will continue to be seen or deemed below others.

The FA Cup will no doubt at all take care of itself as you say, until the next round that is.

I think we can over two legs beat Bayern but we will need to be at our very best in both games, especially the very key players. Koscielny for example has been pish the last few matches but gets overlooked because he is Koscielny and is exempt from the massive scrutiny of other players.

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We could believe it or not win the CL and to do so we need to maximise our chances v Bayern, so we need our very best 11. Does that require resting some this weekend, perhaps not. They have had a week off in advance.

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I wonder if the manager knows what his best eleven is? I'm not sure it's even about the best eleven players, as about ones that play together as a team, which we have struggled to do for some time. We don't have a functioning midfield, we can't adapt quickly enough between zipping it around a mobile front three, or hoofing it up / whipping it in to the big lad (until desperation sets in at the end). Our first choice keeper is looking ropey. We don't have a proper backup RB and we miss Bellerin. Actually we do in Debuchy but he's never in the squad.

I know that average but lucky teams have won the CL in the past but I can't see this lot doing it. Their record against decent sides in recent years includes very few wins.

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I wonder if the manager knows what his best eleven is? I'm not sure it's even about the best eleven players, as about ones that play together as a team, which we have struggled to do for some time. We don't have a functioning midfield, we can't adapt quickly enough between zipping it around a mobile front three, or hoofing it up / whipping it in to the big lad (until desperation sets in at the end). Our first choice keeper is looking ropey. We don't have a proper backup RB and we miss Bellerin. Actually we do in Debuchy but he's never in the squad.

I know that average but lucky teams have won the CL in the past but I can't see this lot doing it. Their record against decent sides in recent years includes very few wins.

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Yeah, it's all about clean sheets, innit. All the top teams can score goals.

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I wonder if the manager knows what his best eleven is? I'm not sure it's even about the best eleven players, as about ones that play together as a team, which we have struggled to do for some time. We don't have a functioning midfield, we can't adapt quickly enough between zipping it around a mobile front three, or hoofing it up / whipping it in to the big lad (until desperation sets in at the end). Our first choice keeper is looking ropey. We don't have a proper backup RB and we miss Bellerin. Actually we do in Debuchy but he's never in the squad.

I know that average but lucky teams have won the CL in the past but I can't see this lot doing it. Their record against decent sides in recent years includes very few wins.

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Good lord - how are Earth are we not in the relegation places

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Good lord - how are Earth are we not in the relegation places

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The game's all about money nowadays, innit.

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Good lord - how are Earth are we not in the relegation places

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The context of my post whether the team can win the champions league, not whether we can stay in the first division. :shrug:

Against big sides we have been good against Chelsea at home before they got themselves into their groove, and that's all. Poor against Chelsea, Man U, Man C, Everton & PSG away, poor against Liverpool and Tottenham at home. Meh against PSG at home.

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The context of my post whether the team can win the champions league, not whether we can stay in the first division. :shrug:

Against big sides we have been good against Chelsea at home before they got themselves into their groove, and that's all. Poor against Chelsea, Man U, Man C, Everton & PSG away, poor against Liverpool and Tottenham at home. Meh against PSG at home.

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One cannot help but notice, dear a, that you are in the mother of shítty moods today.

Come, pull up a chair and tell us what ails thee. A problem shared is a problem halved, as the sages would tell us.

Here, have a tissue and I'll make you a cup of tea.

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One cannot help but notice, dear a, that you are in the mother of shítty moods today.

Come, pull up a chair and tell us what ails thee. A problem shared is a problem halved, as the sages would tell us.

Here, have a tissue and I'll make you a cup of tea.

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I'm with a. His day started badly with that dreadful Yanqui telling us why we voted Leave. I had to be quite short with him. a was even shorter, calling him an 'odious prick', which I rather liked. :hehe:

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I'm with a. His day started badly with that dreadful Yanqui telling us why we voted Leave. I had to be quite short with him. a was even shorter, calling him an 'odious prick', which I rather liked. :hehe:

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Yes, I rather enjoyed that. I have a definite soft spot for the word 'odious' because, somewhere in the back of my brain, it carries with it the idea of calling someone smelly :hehe:

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Yes, I rather enjoyed that. I have a definite soft spot for the word 'odious' because, somewhere in the back of my brain, it carries with it the idea of calling someone smelly :hehe:

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Yes, one can of course be both odious and odiferous, but to use both epithets would seem like over-egging the pudding somewhat, wouldn't it?

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One cannot help but notice, dear a, that you are in the mother of shítty moods today.

Come, pull up a chair and tell us what ails thee. A problem shared is a problem halved, as the sages would tell us.

Here, have a tissue and I'll make you a cup of tea.

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It was the Watford game what dunnit. :-(

Losing at the Bridge to a fine Chelsea side who will walk the league this year is disappointing but manageable. Losing at home to Watford AGAIN has made me lose faith. It was so like Swansea last season, And Watford in the cup.

We have the quality and depth, I'd thought. The machine isn't working though.

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I'm with a. His day started badly with that dreadful Yanqui telling us why we voted Leave. I had to be quite short with him. a was even shorter, calling him an 'odious prick', which I rather liked. :hehe:

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Yes, non-footballistically, that didn't help. :hehe: A few weeks ago he said there were no black people in Britain.

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It was the Watford game what dunnit. :-(

Losing at the Bridge to a fine Chelsea side who will walk the league this year is disappointing but manageable. Losing at home to Watford AGAIN has made me lose faith. It was so like Swansea last season, And Watford in the cup.

We have the quality and depth, I'd thought. The machine isn't working though.

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Perfectly understandable old chap. It's enough to make the strongest man peer into the abyss, contemplating why one bothers.

Picture yourself, on a soft May morning at dawn, listening to the birdsong as you look up at the slope of Skiddaw, knowing that before long you will be looking down from the summit, the mighty mountain grovelling at your feet, defeated and cowed, rolling over to receive your mighty weapon; you take your just rewards, plunging ever more frantically into the fell's soft moistness, your shaft spearing your adversary deeper, ever deeper until! with a final frantic push you climax together, your seed pumping to the very depths of the earth, possibly causing earthquakes and a tsunami of semen in Cockermouth.

Better now?

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Yes, non-footballistically, that didn't help. :hehe: A few weeks ago he said there were no black people in Britain.

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Yes, he does seem to consider himself quite the expert on the UK with his one or two visits. :hehe:

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Perfectly understandable old chap. It's enough to make the strongest man peer into the abyss, contemplating why one bothers.

Picture yourself, on a soft May morning at dawn, listening to the birdsong as you look up at the slope of Skiddaw, knowing that before long you will be looking down from the summit, the mighty mountain grovelling at your feet, defeated and cowed, rolling over to receive your mighty weapon; you take your just rewards, plunging ever more frantically into the fell's soft moistness, your shaft spearing your adversary deeper, ever deeper until! with a final frantic push you climax together, your seed pumping to the very depths of the earth, possibly causing earthquakes and a tsunami of semen in Cockermouth.

Better now?

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Yes, some of us have only recently returned from lunch :-|

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Yes, some of us have only recently returned from lunch :-|

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I do think of mountains (hills, really) as women, to be defeated and then firmly rogered, r. Doesn't everyone?

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Perfectly understandable old chap. It's enough to make the strongest man peer into the abyss, contemplating why one bothers.

Picture yourself, on a soft May morning at dawn, listening to the birdsong as you look up at the slope of Skiddaw, knowing that before long you will be looking down from the summit, the mighty mountain grovelling at your feet, defeated and cowed, rolling over to receive your mighty weapon; you take your just rewards, plunging ever more frantically into the fell's soft moistness, your shaft spearing your adversary deeper, ever deeper until! with a final frantic push you climax together, your seed pumping to the very depths of the earth, possibly causing earthquakes and a tsunami of semen in Cockermouth.

Better now?

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Wainwright's Wànks?

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I do think of mountains (hills, really) as women, to be defeated and then firmly rogered, r. Doesn't everyone?

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I'm sure I have no idea what you mean. I'm a married man.

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I do think of mountains (hills, really) as women, to be defeated and then firmly rogered, r. Doesn't everyone?

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Not really. They are proud protuberances penetrating the sky, surely? Basically, by climbing them, you are taking the female part and worshipping the regenerative phallic principle.

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It would add a certain something to bagging Wainwrights, wouldn't it? And it would certainly seperate the men from the boys. A chap capable of knocking one out at the top of Helvellyn in a howling gale in November would certainly gain my respect.

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I'm sure I have no idea what you mean. I'm a married man.

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Besides which, for most of the year if you whipped it out up Skiddaw, you wouldn't have it long. Frostbite would see to that.

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Not really. They are proud protuberances penetrating the sky, surely? Basically, by climbing them, you are taking the female part and worshipping the regenerative phallic principle.

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Nonsense. I tell them on the way up, I say, 'I'm going to climb you and then I'm going to fúck you.' This causes the glw to mutter grim warnings about angering the mountain, but I haven't been beaten yet.

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It would add a certain something to bagging Wainwrights, wouldn't it? And it would certainly seperate the men from the boys. A chap capable of knocking one out at the top of Helvellyn in a howling gale in November would certainly gain my respect.

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Years ago I did suggest to R a Viz sketch by that name that would involve Wainwright forever climbing up mountains in search of a quiet one off the wrist, only to be constantly interrupted by hikers, dogs, picnickers and the like. It quite tickled me at the time.