But this Corbyn fella. Is he for real?
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But this Corbyn fella. Is he for real?
He's a walking, talking party political broadcast on behalf of the Conservative Party, bless him. :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
Wants a wage cap, but has no idea how much it should be, how it would work or what its wider effects would be. In other words, he's pulled a lefty rabble-rousing policy out of his arse and is now touting it around the TV and radio studios.
The best bit is that he's doing this just after he was in danger of saying something vaguely vote-winning regarding Brexit and immigration. Fella's a genius.
Yes, very. He's a gooner y'know. Under his plan to introduce an upper earnings limit we'll be back to the days of Jeff Blockley, David Price and John Devine :cloud9:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
And I thought UKIP were the retrograde political party :hehe: :-|
You'll fit in well here, p
:hehe: Yeah but I know my limits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
I like to keep it vague.
To be fair, that Trump fella had a fondness for pulling righty rabble-rousing policies out of his arse and it didn't work out too badly for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Anyway, I think his comments on immigration were far funnier.
I genuinely think he must be a Conservative sleeper agent. It is the blind support that really baffles me. They are going to get annihilated in the polls and they keep telling us this is what people actually wantQuote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Yeah but Trump is a strong character.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
Corbyn is scruffy and a bit of a drip.
I used to spend time arguing with Corbyn supporters about the fact that he's blatantly unelectable and have realised that it's a complete waste of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
They split into several groups:
There's the deluded ones who think he's actually vastly popular, will win an election and that 'the establishment' are terrified of him and the media are conspiring to keep his popularity a secret.
Then there are the ideological purists who know he won't win, but regard that as unimportant next to the reality of having 'a real socialist' back in charge of Labour.
Then there are the well-meaning ones who say things like 'he's an honest politician' and 'he's not playing the Westminster game'. I think this lot are a sub-section of the ideological purists in that I don't think they think he can win an election either, but like the idea of having a 'nice chap' to vote for.
Yes, but the difference is that Trump's bull**** policies were things that lots of people actually wanted. Corbyn thinks he can do populism without popular policies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
:nod: the Michael Foot de nos jours. Politics, especially these days, isn't for 'nice' people :-(Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Never was. You can't trust a nice person. God knows what they might do.Quote:
Originally Posted by 71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat
Yes - very much the former I can't get my head around. For the latter, if he was actually making a difference as an opposition leader, it is understandable. Unfortunately, he's just rubbishQuote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Oh, he's making a difference alright. He's making what should be the most difficult period the Tories have had in office since the repeal of the Corn Laws relatively easy. :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
:hehe: yes. I could have phrased that better. It's pitiful really. Almost makes you look back on Neil Kinnock with a nostalgic wistfulnessQuote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Well at least Kinnock - although a disastrous politician in electoral terms - did actually do something useful by hauling his party back from the brink into something that could conceivably be elected. Corbyn, on the other hand, seems to be reading that instruction manual in reverse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
No. Foot was an intellectual heavyweight. President of the Oxford Union, a FRSL, co-author of the Guilty Men pamphlet in the war that blamed the Tories for appeasement etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by 71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat
Corbyn was privately educated yet got only 2 Es at a-level and was thrown off his course in Trade Union Studies at PNL.
Oxford Union pres vs PNL fail. Slightly different.
Actually, you've completely missed my point - I simply meant in terms of nice guy but unelectable...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
Don't wish to be a pain, but I don't agree with that, either.Quote:
Originally Posted by 71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat
Foot was a nice chap. Jezza is a semi-literate, Stalinist chimp.
Put it this way. One you'd be happy with as your kid's god-parent. The other you'd let know where near them.
tbf I'd probably go with the one who hasn't been dead for seven years. Hard to see Foot being that useful on the babysitting frontQuote:
Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
Hmmm. Still less potential for fücking it up than Corbyn, though. Tricky call.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
On the whole, if I were to have a child, I would probably avoid the whole picking a Labour leader as godparent thing, though. Although, I used to see Ed Miliband around Dartmouth Park with his kid - he looked like a nice, caring dad tbfQuote:
Originally Posted by Burney