Absolutely laughable how naive this is :hehe:
http://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/38533433
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Absolutely laughable how naive this is :hehe:
http://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/38533433
:rubchin: Not so sure, probably the 2nd most tested athlete after Bolt. Something would have come up by now......and yes I appreciate his coach has some "history" but still like to think/hope he's cleanQuote:
Originally Posted by World's End Stella
Passing the tests is easy, you stop taking the drugs in advance of the tests so that they clear your system. That's how Ben Johnson, Linford Christie and so many other athletes passed the tests for years. Out of contest testing is fairly easy to avoid as well, although Mo had to miss two tests in the year before London 2012, one away from a 4 year ban.Quote:
Originally Posted by PSRB
The circumstantial evidence is overwhelming, I'm afraid PRSB. :judge:
If he's training in the US, USADA turn up at any hour to do the test. in and out of competition. You have to disclose where you will be so they are able to find you at anytime.Quote:
Originally Posted by World's End Stella
Unless you're Serena, in which case you lock yourself in the panic room until they've gone away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
There is a fighter in the UFC Tim Kennedy who is also in the national guard. He does the Hunting Hitler show on the History channel.
He saw someone on his drive as he came home and pulled a gun on them. it was one of the Usada testers :hehe:
Then made him wait a bit as he come back from working out so made the Usada fella watch him take a shower.
This makes me wonder how there are not more drug test failures in the Premier league.Quote:
Originally Posted by World's End Stella
I find this very odd. You have 20 teams. let's say 25 players per squad. 500 young lads aged earliest 16 and latest mid 30s, athlete
cash on the hip. you'd think you'd at least get a few more recreational drug use failures here and there.
Yet it doesn't seem to happen often. unless they are kept quiet. .
Year Number of Samples Rule Violations
2014-15 2286 9
From the FA.
Which is probably why he spends time training in remote parts of Africa where it's much harder to access him. In fact, he has trained at a facility in Africa where the chap running the facility was recently charged with - yes you guessed it - the distribution of drugs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
:hehe:
:sherlock:Quote:
Originally Posted by World's End Stella
http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/arti...ng-Session.jpg
As Arsene has said, until you do blood testing the screening is not credible as EPO doesn't show in wee-wee tests.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
So you're saying all the Kenyans are all drug cheats then? Wow!
You won't let this go will you... and yet still no hard evidence.... keep tryingQuote:
Originally Posted by World's End Stella
Lance Armstrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
Strictly speaking I am not sure that is 100% correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
The whole of top-level sport is bent. If you think about it, it kind of has to be. Once you accept that premise, everything makes a lot more sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
To different degrees within different sports.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Have to say it does not bother me one jot. The nuances and many definitions of cheating are simply too tiresome to allow oneself to get worked up about.
I think once you accept that there are those at the very top level using unfair means to win, it becomes naive not to realise that it must be well-nigh impossible to win without those artificial advantages. Thus, you have to assume virtually anyone who wins is bent.Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
Think about it: Russia was running a state-sponsored doping scheme and only came fourth in the Olympic medals table. What does that suggest to you? It's essentially an arms race that forces everyone to use those means just to compete, so what else are people going to do?
It doesn't particularly bother me, either. What bothers me is the hypocrisy and naivety of imagining that it's only those guys who cheat and that 'our' guys must be fine.
I believe the cool current internet / social media thing is do simply reply thus - This ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
British Cycling. That is all I have to say.
I'm fairly sure those Irish rowers were on somethingQuote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
What? How dare you suggest that all our brave, asthmatic cyclists who receive mysterious medical packages whose contents nobody can remember might be in any way suspicious?! How dare you suggest that Sir Braddles Wiggles' sudden 'retirement' may simply be a means of quitting before he gets busted!? These are vile calumnies!Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
You, sir, are beneath contempt!
is a gallon and a half of Guinness performance enhancing?
Steak and spuds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
Those two are just clean mad young lads from West Cork, any person that lives in Ireland would probably know somebody like them.
There was a documentary on RTE about them over Xmas, now very obviously beyond the interviews they are hugely dedicated sportsmen but I am not sure they have had a lot of PR or media training.
Yes. I'm sure there's not EPO or other illegal performance enhancing substances in West Cork. They haven't even got the internet yet, have they?Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
one of my old bosses was Irish. he have his steak and potatoes all the time. But whilst having his steak he'd have a pint of milk with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
Perfectly normal behaviour behind closed doors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
I have seen adults do this in restaurants mind you.
No adult ought to drink milk. It's wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
:clap: asthmatic cyclists :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Next thing you know, Burney, SW will be wondering why good old Mo went from a virtually nobody in middle distance running, at the relatively advanced age of 26, to the most dominant middle distance runner in the history of sport, only after beginning to work with a coach who is well known for encouraging doping, to the extent that numerous athletes have testified under oath that he taught them how to dope.
Cynical Irisher that he is. :nod:
I am afraid I make you wrong there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Would allow myself a large glass of milk most nights (obviously if not drinking). Cold milk, a rake of biscuits. Job done.
I quite like a glass of milk with a bacon sandwich.Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
and I am not a fan of a cup of tea or coffee with English breakfast. I'll ask for some juice as I won't ask for milk. plus when I was a kid I didn't trust cafe milk.
Sure, but these athletics cases are almost irrelevant. It's everywhere. The real game-changer will come if anyone ever blows the lid off football, but I really don't know if there's the will to do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by World's End Stella
Oreo cookies are what you want here, SW. Nowt better than a load of Oreos and a glass of milk. :nod:Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
I used to do it with chocolate chip cookies when I was a kid.Quote:
Originally Posted by World's End Stella
I'd put em in the glass and mash em up.
I might do it later. :cloud9:
Milk is a drink for children, sw. The mere idea of drinking it these days actually makes me feel rather queer. :-(Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
I don't normally even have milk in the fridge. black coffees all round.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
but I did to mix my protein shakes with. But had a nice glass the other day.
Yes, true. The Yanks never gave a toss about doping in athletics just as long as they won (see Michael Johnson). However when it turned out that one of baseball's most hallowed records (Roger Maris 61 home runs in a season) was obliterated by two players out of their minds on steroids, it suddenly became a national scandal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
The time is not far off I think when everyone will stop caring and they can just take what they like. If they subsequently do a Florence Griffith Joyner and drop dead at the age of 39 then so be it.
I just think most fans would rather not know if football's bent, tbh. Equally, the authorities won't want to crack down on it, while most of the media does very nicely out of football and won't have much interest in killing the goose that lays the golden eggs. I just think everyone's happier turning a blind eye.Quote:
Originally Posted by World's End Stella