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So this chap in the states who shot the cameraman and reporter was black, motivated by the
Charleston killings and targeted white people against whom he held race-based grudges.
But nobody is calling him a terrorist - just a nutter with a gun and a grudge.
So where, I wonder, does this leave those who claimed the killer in Charleston would have been labelled a terrorist had he not been white? Only it would seem to me that this case fundamentally disproves that rather silly argument. :rubchin:
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So basically, the black man was racist and he did this because
some white people had been racist recently..... or he was just another American nutter with a gun :shrug:
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Both, basically. The point is that the original contention by Jorge was that a case like this would
instantly lead to the shooter being labelled a terrorist, whereas the murder in Charleston did not because that shooter was white.
My point is that the reaction to this crime has conclusively proved this contention to be false.
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It was a silly argument at the time and really a quite bizarre reaction to
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I agree... bloody Americans and their guns
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Indeed. I wouldn't normally go out of my way to use something like this to make a point, but that
was such a wrongheaded suggestion that I feel it's justified in this instance.
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His name was Vester, but that wasn't good enough. So he chose to be known as Bryce.
Americans are, without a doubt, the most f**ked up of all earthly organisms.
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There's no point talking to Berni about it. He *definitey* hasn't looked at any of the
footage or photos of the incident.
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Can't believe that reporter was 24
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Yeah, but he sure could rock a cowboy hat
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Why do you find it so hard to cope with the idea that some - indeed many - people are better, more
moral and less abject humans than you are? :shrug:
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I thought that. Although that overabundance of teeth and uniform blonde hair that certain
American women sometimes have can make them all look pretty nondescript.
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Let's stick to the facts, sonny jim bob. Have you or have you not voluntarily looked at
the close-up images or footage of the young reporter's face as a gun was pointed at her face and she faced her impending death?
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I watched the video that Vester took. Very harrowing and wished I hadn't.
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Sorry, no. I read about it and saw the initial reports where the footage stopped just before the
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Oh, was the footage of a lunatic shooting three people harrowing? How very f**king surprising! You
could never have guessed before that that might have been the case before clicking play, could you?
What the f**k is wrong with you people?
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I can't see the interest in watching someone being shot in real life
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So you didn't look at the images accompanying most of these reports?
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If it makes you feel better about your own depravity to assume it is common to all others then you
go right ahead thinking whatever you like. I can't stop you.
I can only tell you the truth, I can't make you believe me. :shrug:
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Morbid curiosity, I suppose. I was surprised that he shot at her body first.
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You're a doctor. Presumably death, wounds, pain and dead bodies are not unknown to you?
What in God's name would you hope to gain from watching such a thing?
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I cannot explain it. I just feel intrigued. Also, we don't tend to get too many shootings in Epsom.
And you don't see any wounds in the video.
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You are smart enough to be aware that no-one would believe you didnt
take a peek at those images.
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Did you see the gunman's own POV footage? Like a real life Call of Duty
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I believe him, as I also, haven't looked at the images
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Rubbernecker mentality innit
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Well I don't actually know what images you mean. If you mean the footage of the shooting itself, no,
I have not watched it. If you mean images in newspapers, then no, I haven't seen them, either. I have only read the story online and have been careful not to click on any videos. As a consequence, I have not seen anything that I would find shocking or harrowing because I don't need to see those things. I have seen an image of just before the shooting and I have seen a blurred still of the man with the gun. I have read descriptions of the events. That is it.
If you check the coverage on The Guardian website (which is where I have gleaned most of my information from), you will find that it is quite possible to inform oneself about this event without watching anything unduly upsetting. Why do you find it so hard to believe that? :shrug:
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Me neither
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Perhaps it's a generational thing? We come from a generation that didn't expect as its God-given
right to see footage of every ghastly news event and so we don't seek it out and don't feel compelled to watch it just because it exists. Alternatively, it might just be that one reaches an age where you realise that there are enough upsetting and distressing things in this world without going out of your way to witness more? :shrug:
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Quite possibly - couldn't believe people needed to be told not to
post footage of that plane crash the other day on social media. Sad seens, b
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Perhaps it's a generational thing - a generation that grew up with GTA and so on?
I don't know; I suppose we grew up with war films, but certainly people seem more hardened to 'real' violence.
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Police quite often report that people film RTAs on their mobiles
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I remember genuinely flinching and feeling rather queasy at the portrayal of violence in Goodfellas.
Today I suspect it would be regarded as rather tame. :-(
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Lord yes. I still turn away from the vice scene - and Joe Pesci and the baseball bat bit
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The vice scene is Casino, but the point is the same.
For all that I've enjoyed some of his movies, I've always suspected that Scorcese is a massive wrongun, tbh. Likes violence and hero-worships violent psychopaths a little too much for my taste.
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That's another thing. It almost never occurs to me to take my phone out and start filming anything.
On the rare occasions I do, it's occurred to me so late that I usually miss whatever I was trying to film. I think I can certainly say that the last thing I would think of doing in a disaster-type situation would be to film it.
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Nor me.
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He also claimed to be a "quare"....so black, gay and armed are not a good mix...
talk about chips on the shoulder - this bloke had a large portion of them....
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Gay, you say? I'm shocked.
Yes, he's not done much for the diversity lobby this lad.
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