should react to terrorist attacks by doing nothing?
I give it until 11 at the latest.
should react to terrorist attacks by doing nothing?
I give it until 11 at the latest.
Yes, The Guardian has him on speed dial for these occasions, I think. He can patiently explain to us once again how taking steps that might actually stop them committing these atrocities IS EXACTLY WHAT THE TERRORISTS WANT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Let's not forget that we are also two weeks away from potentially electing as Prime Minister a man who believes last night was, to a certain extent, justified, on the grounds of moral relativism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
He probably thinks there's votes in this for him as people tend to be appeasers.
You don't seriously think he's going to get elected? :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
The tories are making a hames of their campaign, but that still isn't going to convince people to vote for Corbyn, I'm happy to say.
The polls are over-estimating Labour once again. Labour is simply enjoying a dead cat bounce.
It's still disgraceful that a guy who approves of anti-British terrorism is going to get millions of votes and become Leader of the Opposition. Comparisons with Michael Foot are simply way off the mark, the man might have been a windbag but he was a patriot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
And of course we might have a Home Seceretary who believes that, 'every defeat of the British state is a victory for all of us.'Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
These fúckers should be locked up.
You have forgotten that in 21st century culturally Marxist UK, 'patriot' is spelt 'racist' or 'fascist'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mo Britain less Europe
Oddly enough, I rather welcome the fact Corbyn as leader is revealing that large elements of the left are being revealed for what they really are: namely profoundly treasonous and anti-British. They've always been able to hide their true nature as concern for others before now, but now that facade is being removed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mo Britain less Europe
But the terrifying reality is that such attitudes have become so mainstream, there appears to be no real widespread revulsion at the exposure of these views. They should be polling 6%, for Christ's sake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
:shrug: But we live in a country where millions have been brought up to hate all outward manifestations of their own nation. People like Jorge are allowed to walk the streets, talking treason without being lynched.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
It's truly, deeply depressing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
You're of that sort too though, aren't you, supporting Ireland at the rugby and refusing to fly the flag or cheer the England football team and whatnot?Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
These are piffling, frivolous things, though. It is quite possible to eschew the England football or rugby team while remaining a proud Englishman. Equally, it is possible to have another national sporting allegiance for reasons of ons's ancestry and not be treasonous. Contrary to what Norman Tebbit thinks, sport is a poor indicator of true national allegiance because - well, because it's just sport. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo
There's a reason everyone took the pîss out of Norman Tebbit for his ludicrously narrow view of nationhood. :shrug:
Fair enough, but it surely must've occured to you that that's how it starts. Disallowing, disavowing "outward manifestations of their own nation", especially when it's England, or the English for that matter, plays into their hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Anyway, nobody in Henley was taking the piss out of Tebbit.
In a country that exists as an uncomfortable historical amalgam of four different national identities, trying to define one 'correct' sporting allegiance is always going to be rather tricky, though, don't you think?Quote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo
Not I do not. But I wasn't raised in a "multi-cultural" environment, so why would I :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
It's not really about "correct" anyway, is it. It's about sentiment, instinct, your gut feeling.
Gut instinct is learned, though. i grew up in a house with an Irish father who grew up supporting Ireland at rugby. I therefore supported Ireland. Nothing to do with actual national allegiance (I feel none whatsoever for Ireland), just supporting the same team as your dad. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo
Oh , fair enough then, my mistake. I thought you were born and raised in England :homer:Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
I was. So what?Quote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo
Just come out and say it B, none will think less of you, it may even be cathartic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
You actually want to be Irish.
Go on. Let it out.
:hehe: No. I always thought the football team were a useless bunch of clogging cünts, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
Yep - I still have a soft spot for the Irish rugby team but stopped supporting the football team in Jack Charlton's day. Only really support England at rugby because my dad took me to Twickenham. Though it was only recently I realised why we were always surrounded by opposition fansQuote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Because we whipped your asses in Stuttgart in 88?Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
Jaysus. Sore loser.
So nothing. I just wanted you to answer my question without me having to ask it. At a casual glance, my father and I are both African. Except that we're not African because we "chose" not to be. My sons don't support England because it's my country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
You don't see that you've (both) actually voted with your feet here and that that's what matters? As adults, people have choices. Even gut instincts are choices; we choose the bits of gut instinct we like, that we are happy with.
So, to get back to the point, isn't it hard to deny that your sort has, at least, a mild form of "hate all outward manifestations of their own nation", which may have begun to encourage the sort of consequences we are seeing today? It's certainly sympathetic to those lefty, multi-culti ideas, isn't it. A superficial manifestation perhaps.
I can also see why people bristle at the very thought; Ian Wright, John Terry :-(
:hehe: Actually that match did decide it for me - but beforehand not the result (I'll overlook the fact that it was a foul on our Tone for the goal). Jack's decision to go with McCarthy above O'Leary was an insult to football - and I started going to Wembley a lot for England games once Adams got into the team. Nothing to do with either country reallyQuote:
Originally Posted by SWv2