If Klopp took over at Arsenal he would take us back to Day One of the Wenger era >>>
Pace, power, teamwork, discipline and players fighting for each other.
As a manager, he's a curious hybrid of George Graham and Arsene Wenger. He insists on his teams playing with pace, skill and power and indulges his flair players, but also insists on tactical discipline, teamwork and huge physical effort.
Dortmund are imploding right now through a combination of limited resources, Bayern stealing (ahem, 'signing') all their best players, injuries and bad luck, but what Klopp did in taking a club on the verge of bankruptcy, a threadbare squad and no financial resources to compete on transfers and then lead them to back-to-back Bundesliga titles is nothing short of miraculous.
Klopp is also a developmental manager that works well with young talents and can compete on lower transfer budgets than his rivals. He's tailor-made for Arsenal.
He'd also be guaranteed to wipe the smug smile off Mourinho's face.
He has the exact same problems at Dortmund that we have here. I watch them almost every week. They
have no plan B, are defensively weak, and have a tendency to implode.
Dortmund have been shit in the Bundesliga this season, threw away a two goal lead yesterday
They're in the relegation zone i think, poor management or are we blaming the players on this one?
I'd say they have other problems such as a transfer and wage budget less than half the size of ours.
Not to mention competing with a club even richer than us that can distort (code for 'poison') fair competition in the league they play in.
Klopp is fighting Bayern with one hand tied behind his back.
With Arsenal he'd have far greater resources to compete.
They have a much better defence than us, more squad depth across the entire back line.
They aren't 'fighting Bayern', they're in, like, 17th place.
Well, not really so strong in defence: Hummels is jaded and dogged by minor injuries, Sokratis is >>
injured, Subotic is struggling for form and fitness after a long-term injury, Piszczek sadly looks like a different player after long-term injury etc, etc.
Defensively they've collapsed, but offensively they've scored more than the fifth-placed team in the Bundesliga...
They are better in defence than us; that much should be patently clear:
Durm, Sokratis, Hummels, Subotic, Schmelzer, Pisscheck, Ginter
vs.
Chambers, Mertesacker, Monreal, Gibbs, Koscielny, Debuchy.
Come on, which group of players would you rather have?
"B-but they have had injuries!". Yeah, so have we.
they also have actual holding midfielders
albeit one is knocking on a bit and one is always injured but still midfielders who hold their position, amazing stuff.
OK, if everyone is fit then, Hummels apart, I don't see a difference.
"Apart from the difference, I don't see a difference". Good job.
Not quite sure of your point, Tigs. You suggest Klopp is unsuitable to replace Wenger and yet >>>
he's somehow built a better defence.
What is your point exactly?
Dortmund's problems are largely temporary and influenced by factors out of Klopp's control.
Wenger's problems are largely of his making and his stubborn insistence on persisting with a style that has been found out by all his rivals and wilfully refusing to strengthen key areas of the team.
Surely with an Awimb handle like 'the splendor of antigone' you'd recognise the idea of tragedy being at the heart of human experience and the irony of Wenger's own personal personal little tragedy being repeated week-in, week-out as repeats the same mistakes endlessly in the vain hope of a different outcome.
Klopp's current problems are passing ones and largely out of his control. Wenger's problems are of his own making and apparently permanent.
they lose the best players to Bayern every year
I am a huge fan of Klopp and would very much welcome him as our next manager. But your suggestion
that appointing him would unquestionably lead to the rectification of the very things that are now missing in the team is ridiculously naive if you've followed Dortmund recently. They suffer from the very same things that we do, and if you're going to blame Wenger for our malady, you certainly can't absolve Klopp from blame.
If you'd said Simeone or someone who actually plays with tactical discipline, teamwork, and huge physical effort, you might have had an argument.
That's an extremely blinkered view of Dortmund's problems this season in my opinion.
Is it blinkered to claim that they have been shit defensively, have played naive football, and
haven't been able to deal with teams that sit deep, kick the **** out of them, and hit Dortmund on the break? Because that is what has happened.
