until they return to the circuit.
Presumably this will apply to men who take paternity leave too?
until they return to the circuit.
Presumably this will apply to men who take paternity leave too?
You do realise that apart from the Grand Slam tournaments men's and women's tennis are run by two completely different organisations, don't you? Women's tennis have also had a protected ranking for injury for some years now (although they were talking of scrapping it)Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
What has you got against da bitchez, dude?Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
Yes, but I assume the groups lobbying for these changes will also be doing the same for the organisation that runs the men's game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
Honestly, this gender pay gap business is sending me a bit crazy. I've never, ever seen an issue universally reported and discussed with such specious dishonesty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
There were two documentaries on it last night across the five terrestrial main channels.
It's actually significantly more mental than the transers stuff. Which is pretty fúcking mental.
You're also aware it is a sport, yes? Which makes playing it while pregnant a bit difficult? That bit doesn't affect the father. It's almost like you're comparing two completely different situations just to make a childish pointQuote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
of course isn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
you should pay men and women the same for doing either, the same work or work of equal value.
The statistics (the mathematical calculation for reporting) do get (sort of) manipulated to suit the agenda of course. . .
I saw a story earlier about Navratilova complaining she gets just 10% of what McEnroe gets on BBC for Wimbledon coverage.Quote:
Originally Posted by IUFG
Now I am no tennis buff but on the summer evening when I do see any tennis he (McEnroe) appears to be a constant presence while the Navratilova is not, presumably off doing lezzer stuff.
Yet the basis of the issue appeared to be simply reduced to man gets loads, man /lady gets less.
I think these changes will apply after the baby is born, at which point a man may very well want to take over the child-caring responsibilities. My question is, will the advocates of this rule change also demand the same for men who want to hang out with their sprog for 2 years and then return to the game?Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
don't be a ****Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
There's no reason to believe women are paid less for the same work, after you've corrected for matters of choice such as having babies.Quote:
Originally Posted by IUFG
don't be a ****Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
As always , Steve is correct
He is utilised to a far greater degree than Martina is
Hours worked
Importance of the matches analysed and co-commented on
You don't actually know what you are talking about which doesn't really help :shrug: A women who takes two years out wouldn't have protected ranking eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
Difficult to calculate 'pay' when trading on personality. This is where the gig economy, rather than 'employment', is useful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viva Prat Vegas
You can't compare McEnroe to Navratilova, even they are doing, essentially, the same work.
This is a fair point. I literally heard the last 10 seconds of the story on the news and am irredeemably ignorant of the details.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
But if you think that's going to stop me you are leeetle beeet naive.
Yes, but birds don't do the same work as men, do they? You don't get female coal miners, front line soldiers, doctors or pilots, do you? I mean, you shouldn't, anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by IUFG
But who is to say the emotional labour of changing the colostomy bag of some rancid old **** with dementia every day is of less value than the physical labour of working down a coal mine?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
of course it's worth pointing out that in the tennis majors, the women get paid the same as the men for less work.........Quote:
Originally Posted by IUFG
And they serve more slowly
Make more noise though
Oh, she doesn't seem to mind, tbh. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
:hehe: I'm practically being Kolo Toure there aren't iQuote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
Especially in McDonalds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viva Prat Vegas
I am more of a Gourmet Burger man
When I can afford one
We all enjoy a quality burger, s. But there are occasions where nature calls and the only available option is the McDonalds :-(Quote:
Originally Posted by Viva Prat Vegas
Mind you, the other day I was desperate for a snack and, passing by a McDonalds, I popped in and bought a cheeseburger. Your actual, basic cheeseburger. Just one. Wallop, it was gone in two bites, it was fúcking delicious, and it dealt with the snack requirement. wd mcd.
The chick who served me took fúcking ages and kept grunting though.
I too confess to occasionally slipping into McDs for the very same item on account of their relative cheapness
99p in the UK
Was yours lukewarm? Mine usually are :-(
Bearing in mind your single figure bus usage record , I am slightly surprised that you are happy enough to wander into the "London Transport" of fast food gaffs on more than the odd occasion
That would be the first time in 18 months or so, I suppose, so it is very occasional. In the past it might have been a couple of times a year but I can't cope with the sausage and egg mcmuffin hangover cure any more. I'm done with that shít.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viva Prat Vegas
Wait, what do you mean, '99p in the UK'? Whichj one of us isn't in the UK?Quote:
Originally Posted by Viva Prat Vegas
sw imo ............Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Thank you P.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pokster
In Europe we have the Eurosaver menu.
We accept you into our hearts, but in reality Berni voted to get away from you, he hates you swQuote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
IAHYK - though I will be in the UK from Thursday. Deepest, darkest Derbyshire :shudder:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pokster