Such a powerful argument compels full agreement and no further questions asked, I reckon.
Not sure tbh. They were for sure music media darlings around the time of their first album, headlined the NME stage at Glastonbury on the Friday night, criminally pushing Teenage Fanclub into the support slot.
Thing is the media moved on quickly, almost dropped them when Bernard Butler left.
The Libertines took drugs which was a massive part of their cool. Whatever talent they had was almost secondary.
It was Melody Maker, dubbing them the Best New Band in Britain before they had released a sodding thing.
I saw Teenage Fanclub at the Garage in Highbury. Great fun...
I think the media moved on from Suede because they were focused on Oasis and Blur. That said, the first two albums are great and it is patchy from then on.
It had possibly the worst toilets I have seen. You were literallywading through piss. It was easier to just stand at the door and point.
But yes, a great venue. Teenage Fan Club were supported by the MAnic Street Preachers at one of their earliest gigs. I spilt the singer's pint after their set.
The 80s is often very unfairly maligned as a bad period for music and is terribly inaccurate, similar to how many people frown on the management of GG at Arsenal focusing only on the latter period and forgetting the brilliance of the earlier years.
The 80s had obviously The Jam and The Style Council but also bands such as The Smiths, Pixies, The Pogues, The Waterboys and then towards the end The Stone Roses, Happy Mondays and the early days of The Wonder Stuff, PWEI and many others.
Music is often packaged as 'movements' by the record industry and media rather than the simple trend/fashion that it is. When people talk about 80smusic they dont mean the stuff you mention.
I mean the 80s saw horrific stadium rock bands dominate the hard rock genre- but it also saw Guns n Roses reverse that trend by making a genuinely great rock album. Followed by Aerosmith returning to form, the Black Crowes etc....but people remember Bon Jovi and Poison for the haircuts. They are more likely to think of Stock Aitken and Walterman than THe Stone Roses or The Wonder Stuff.
Every decade has some great music, some more than others. Its only silly people in media who like to castigate or celebrate an entire decade of music, usually based on some highly tenuous 'cultural critique' . The other day I read a piece from the Guardian saying that Britpop destroyed british music by being too english in its outlook and cultural references, becoming a cultural abomination that turned its back on british music's heritage of having an. International outlook. What total and utter *******s. As though The Smiths, just a few years before, werent horrifically english in their lyrics and outlook...as though Bowie, Syd Barrett, the Small Faces, Pink Floyd and Chas n Dave didnt do exactly the same.
Normal expectation would be an ability to approach the urinal without being ankle deep in piss. an expectation generally met at every other venue, I might add. Even the old Marquee.
I am not saying its a deal breaker. Just, you know, dont put your dancing shoes on :)
Really? Who maligns the 80s music, exactly?
As a decade, it was miles better than the 70s (which is the worst decade for music EVER) and I can't even remember anything from the 90s it was so bland.
I assumed everyone recognized the 80s as one of the best decades ever for music. :shrug:
Agreed - I listened to a lot of Chicago House in the 80's, top stuff. There was some decent stuff in the 80's, especially towards the end. Hip Hop and acid house broke through FFS :cloud9:
But to place The Smiths at the zenith of British music since the Beatles . . . :-|
No, as Pedro has for once correctly pointed out it is often looked back on as bland, the decade that gave us Rick Astley and big hair.
The 90s you see as bland but had 3-4 years of so called Brit Pop when music was saved from death. Perhaps the death of the 80s.
Yeah the 70s was awful, you are right. I mean you had to put up with the likes of Zeppelin, Purple, Sabbath, Pink Floyd, Dylan, Leoanard Cohen, Neil Young, Aerosmith, Skynyrd, The Who, The Stones, all near the height of their powers. As if that wasn't bad enough you then had to put up with punk later in the decade.
Awful....just awful :)
I'm not disagreeing with you (other than to point out the glaring omission of Bowie, of course, but I'll put that down to carelessness on your part), but I do have to point out that the Stones were well past their best in the 70s. Exile on Main St was - in point of fact - sh1te.
Ok, Bowie should be in there. It wasnt an exhaustive list. I mean, I didnt even get to putin Wings or the Eagles :)
Exile onMain Street- and I want to be very clear about this, b- is not, in any way, ****. I simply will not have that, I'm sorry.
We are not far from 'formal apology' territory here....