There are people to whom I am connected on Facebook (yes, I know...)

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Originally Posted by Burney

Oui, mais je crains que nous sommes proches des limites de mon français. Nous devons donc cesser.

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Well, I think you've both done very well.

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Originally Posted by redgunamo

Answer that yourself; have you not previously stated your "pride" in your Irish roots?

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I think that's perhaps one area where he does agree with George Carlin

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Originally Posted by redgunamo

Answer that yourself; have you not previously stated your "pride" in your Irish roots?

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That's different, r. Patriotism's only bad if you're British or American.

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Originally Posted by redgunamo

Well, I think you've both done very well.

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Aw, shucks. Sorry Sir C let the side down with 'maison de council', though.

Me, not you :homer:

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Originally Posted by The Jorge

I think that's perhaps one area where he does agree with George Carlin

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Originally Posted by The Jorge

Why is patriotism so deep though? As I say, it just seems arbitary to me.

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It is spiritually-rooted and entirely visceral, an emotion rather than a choice, an unquantifiable connection to place, to earth, to people and their deeds. It is like love, or religion or any other inexplicable need which springs from the soul and defines us as human.

That's how deep it is.

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Originally Posted by Sir C

It is spiritually-rooted and entirely visceral, an emotion rather than a choice, an unquantifiable connection to place, to earth, to people and their deeds. It is like love, or religion or any other inexplicable need which springs from the soul and defines us as human.

That's how deep it is.

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I say, that's rather good.

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Originally Posted by The Jorge

Why is patriotism so deep though? As I say, it just seems arbitary to me.

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Are you not proud to be an Arsenal supporter? Same difference, imo.

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Originally Posted by Burney

I say, that's rather good.

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ty b.

I'm spent now.

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Originally Posted by Sir C

It is spiritually-rooted and entirely visceral, an emotion rather than a choice, an unquantifiable connection to place, to earth, to people and their deeds. It is like love, or religion or any other inexplicable need which springs from the soul and defines us as human.

That's how deep it is.

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But do you only get that in *your* place then? I get that in Yorkshire, in Andalucia and in Florence. I get it when I think of the North Bank but I dont get it anywhere else in London, I dont get it when I see a union jack or hear the anthem, quite the opposite in those cases.