Blokes on moped mounted the curb and snatched the missus's phone this morning

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So those that don't fit your criteria are the exception rather than the rule?

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You took a small, largely secular, historically and geographically anomalous group - many of whom would barely be recognised as Muslim by their co-religionists - and held them up as exemplars of how well Islam and the modern world can work together. That was, to say the least, disingenuous of you. I was simply pointing out that disingenuousness.

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Originally Posted by Sir C

I think it's interesting and informative reading the differing opinions of two such erudite, thoughtful young men.

When did you last thrill us with some original thinking, p?

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I have no problem with differing opinions.... the problem i have is that they repeat their differences every week or so and use the same reasoning each time.

I'm a sheep sir C, why be original when i can just hang on to the coat tails or whatever I choose

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Originally Posted by SWv2

I do think you and Pedro should just proceed to oiling up and bum doing each other.

The ongoing tension between you is ridiculous.

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I have tried to shut this down. The lad monty is like a dog with a ****ing bone.

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Originally Posted by Peter

I have tried to shut this down. The lad monty is like a dog with a ****ing bone.

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I think he has the bone for you though p

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Originally Posted by Pokster

I have no problem with differing opinions.... the problem i have is that they repeat their differences every week or so and use the same reasoning each time.

I'm a sheep sir C, why be original when i can just hang on to the coat tails or whatever I choose

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A shoop? Is that northern for gimp?

Have you seen that docuemntary series about the Lakes and the Yorkshire Dales? It's been lovely, but I'm convinced it's narrated by thon professional Yorkshireman wossname, Mike Harding, but the credits disagree.

Mike Harding. Whatever happened to Mike Harding?

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A shoop? Is that northern for gimp?

Have you seen that docuemntary series about the Lakes and the Yorkshire Dales? It's been lovely, but I'm convinced it's narrated by thon professional Yorkshireman wossname, Mike Harding, but the credits disagree.

Mike Harding. Whatever happened to Mike Harding?

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No not seen it.... I saw Mike Harding in concert about 35 years ago :old:

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You took a small, largely secular, historically and geographically anomalous group - many of whom would barely be recognised as Muslim by their co-religionists - and held them up as exemplars of how well Islam and the modern world can work together. That was, to say the least, disingenuous of you. I was simply pointing out that disingenuousness.

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No, I didnt. As I said, the far larger muslim communities were pakistani and bangladeshi. The Turkish Cypriots barely registered. So that is neither fair nor accurate.

I could accuse you of using Bradford as an equally extreme example of how muslims cant integrate. Its pretty much the other end of the spectrum from Palmers Green.

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I think he has the bone for you though p

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He has always had an issue with me, going right back to the late 90s. I wouldn't put it down to any sexual desire as that would be rather homophobic. Anyway, the lad has kids, he cant be a shirtlifter.

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Originally Posted by Burney

You took a small, largely secular, historically and geographically anomalous group - many of whom would barely be recognised as Muslim by their co-religionists - and held them up as exemplars of how well Islam and the modern world can work together. That was, to say the least, disingenuous of you. I was simply pointing out that disingenuousness.

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Interestingly, the total muslim population of enfield, barnet and haringey combined is roughly the same as the muslim population in Bradford. Although that is according to the 2011 census. I assume they have at least doubled since then.

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Originally Posted by Sir C

I think it's interesting and informative reading the differing opinions of two such erudite, thoughtful young men.

When did you last thrill us with some original thinking, p?

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I stopped being young quite some time ago.

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No, I didnt. As I said, the far larger muslim communities were pakistani and bangladeshi. The Turkish Cypriots barely registered. So that is neither fair nor accurate.

I could accuse you of using Bradford as an equally extreme example of how muslims cant integrate. Its pretty much the other end of the spectrum from Palmers Green.

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For Bradford, read Tower Hamets, Rotherham, Oxford, Luton, Rochdale, Leicester, etc, etc.

For Palmers Green read...Palmers Green.

That's the difference.

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I stopped being young quite some time ago.

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Also I guess the thinking stopped when your brain was replaced by a liberal groupthink mush?

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Originally Posted by Sir C

Also I guess the thinking stopped when your brain was replaced by a liberal groupthink mush?

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Before that it was alll druggy bull**** and Dylan lyrics anyway. THinking has never been my strength.

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Before that it was alll druggy bull**** and Dylan lyrics anyway. THinking has never been my strength.

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Druggy bull**** :cloud9:

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For Bradford, read Tower Hamets, Rotherham, Oxford, Luton, Rochdale, Leicester, etc, etc.

For Palmers Green read...Palmers Green.

That's the difference.

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At first glance they appear to all be ****holes (apart from Oxford, perhaps).

Pardon me and my brothers for knowing how to get along with people. You must hate us.

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At first glance they appear to all be ****holes (apart from Oxford, perhaps).

Pardon me and my brothers for knowing how to get along with people. You must hate us.

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Oh, parts of Oxford are certainly like that.

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He has always had an issue with me, going right back to the late 90s. I wouldn't put it down to any sexual desire as that would be rather homophobic. Anyway, the lad has kids, he cant be a shirtlifter.

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Paul OGrady has a kid
Somehow

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Originally Posted by Burney

For Bradford, read Tower Hamets, Rotherham, Oxford, Luton, Rochdale, Leicester, etc, etc.

For Palmers Green read...Palmers Green.

That's the difference.

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I am a bit confused with this Palmers Green stuff.

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Originally Posted by Pat Vegas

I am a bit confused with this Palmers Green stuff.

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Its the only place in the UK with nice Muslims, apparently.

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Its the only place in the UK with nice Muslims, apparently.

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Perhaps they are also Liberals.

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Originally Posted by SWv2

Perhaps they are also Liberals.

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Labour actually, after the last election. They elected a Greek Cypriot as MP :D

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Its the only place in the UK with nice Muslims, apparently.

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Who said they were nice? Thryre simply less religiously observant and less politically radicalised.

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Its the only place in the UK with nice Muslims, apparently.

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Hmmm, must be the turks.
There i still a strong Greek community perhaps not as obvious as before.

However it's changing and I want to leave. It's becoming overly expensive and lots of questionable eastern europe types have moved in.

For instance there is a neighbour who has a bunch of kids has an old woman living with him.
The fella doesn't speak a word of a the queens, must be some sort of tradesman as he has hands of leather, Yet he can rent out a big place and support everyone else :sherlock: and has a newish different car every month. I want to know what his gig is.

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Hmmm, must be the turks.
There i still a strong Greek community perhaps not as obvious as before.

However it's changing and I want to leave. It's becoming overly expensive and lots of questionable eastern europe types have moved in.

For instance there is a neighbour who has a bunch of kids has an old woman living with him.
The fella doesn't speak a word of a the queens, must be some sort of tradesman as he has hands of leather, Yet he can rent out a big place and support everyone else :sherlock: and has a newish different car every month. I want to know what his gig is.

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Brexit will sort this out, he will straight back on the boat to wherever.

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Originally Posted by Pat Vegas

Hmmm, must be the turks.
There i still a strong Greek community perhaps not as obvious as before.

However it's changing and I want to leave. It's becoming overly expensive and lots of questionable eastern europe types have moved in.

For instance there is a neighbour who has a bunch of kids has an old woman living with him.
The fella doesn't speak a word of a the queens, must be some sort of tradesman as he has hands of leather, Yet he can rent out a big place and support everyone else :sherlock: and has a newish different car every month. I want to know what his gig is.

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It has changed considerably, but then that is the nature of the area. I wouldn't necessarily want to live there now and it is absurdly expensive.

The greeks began moving out to Southgate, Oakwood, Cockfosters some time ago. Its all about property for them.