So it's another referendum then. Ignore Mrs May's firm assertion that there will

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Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman

select * from customers

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To a point but I have underlings to do that for me.

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That surely is the biggest practical argument against a second vote, leaving aside the whole 'you dont get a second chance just because you lost' thing. A leave victory changes nothing, a remain victory would solve nothing, and simply make it 1-1.

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Do it like in the football; two legs, aggregate score and all that?

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Killed by GDPR?

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Been dying for years A, businesses moving to electronic means of communicating, lower cost etc.

GDPR will simply kill the already dying beast.

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Originally Posted by World's End Stella

I think there is an argument to be made that any referendum (forget Brexit specifically) is more likely to be representative if you have a second and final vote.

A single referendum is always open to the criticism that people didn't take it seriously because they thought it was certain that the public would vote one way or the other, or that something was fundamentally misrepresented in the lead up to the vote etc etc. A second referendum would resolve many of those concerns with necessarily leaving us open to the possibility of a third referendum.

I don't want one, of course, but I don't buy the argument that you can't have a second one without considering the possibility of a third one.

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The trouble with this argument (aparty from the bullshít about people not taking it seriously) is that it’s innately authoritarian. It smacks of teacher being able to tell the naughty electorate to go away and think about what it’s done and come back with the ‘right’ answer this time. In other words, it undermines the whole nature and purpose of the process.

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The "Tick here if you don't want our offers / junk mail" wording seems to have now been altered to say
"do" and not "don't"

Good move

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Indeed, a subtle move where consent now has to be clearly indicated and affirmative.

In other words opt-in.

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The trouble with this argument (aparty from the bullshít about people not taking it seriously) is that it’s innately authoritarian. It smacks of teacher being able to tell the naughty electorate to go away and think about what it’s done and come back with the ‘right’ answer this time. In other words, it undermines the whole nature and purpose of the process.

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Why is 'not taking it seriously' bullsh1t? The 18-30 year old bracket was seriously under-represented on a proportional basis, you don't think that it is possible that they took for granted that we wouldn't Leave? I do, although I would agree they deserve everything they get if that was the reason.

You portray the approach as being similar to a teacher and a naughty child but that's just a frivolous analogy meant to demean the approach. The reality is that some of the issues with a single referendum could be addressed with a second referendum without leading to a possible third referendum. That's my utterly irrelevant point. :-)

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To a point but I have underlings to do that for me.

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Underlings? - The polish tea ladies code?

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I repeat, the man is a ****.

My deepest odium regarding Brexit is reserved for Boris. He was singularly ashen faced on the morning after the leave vote and behaved in a serpentine and disreputable way in the days that followed. He would have been expected to stand for PM following Cameron's resignation but the fat, scruffy snake knew a poisoned chalice when he saw one. ****.

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To think he was my MP, I voted for him :-(

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Underlings? - The polish tea ladies code?

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Tea lady?

What year do you work in. It's all flat whites and green tea these days H.

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Why is 'not taking it seriously' bullsh1t? The 18-30 year old bracket was seriously under-represented on a proportional basis, you don't think that it is possible that they took for granted that we wouldn't Leave? I do, although I would agree they deserve everything they get if that was the reason.

You portray the approach as being similar to a teacher and a naughty child but that's just a frivolous analogy meant to demean the approach. The reality is that some of the issues with a single referendum could be addressed with a second referendum without leading to a possible third referendum. That's my utterly irrelevant point. :-)

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People who don't vote and then don't like the result don't get to turn around and have another go, ffs. That's rewarding voter apathy, ffs!

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To think he was my MP, I voted for him :-(

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Bloody hell! That's following from the FISA warrant granted via the Steele Dossier, I presume

That's Foreign Secretaries for you. They take their orders from Langley! :-(

Also, it says top secret and seems to have been posted on the internet. :yikes:

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Bloody hell! That's following from the FISA warrant granted via the Steele Dossier, I presume

That's Foreign Secretaries for you. They take their orders from Langley! :-(

Also, it says top secret and seems to have been posted on the internet. :yikes:

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It's fairly common to get around rules about spying on your own people by getting your foreign spook mates to do it for you instead.

This missive apparently means that dear old Susan is for the high jump.

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This missive apparently means that dear old Susan is for the high jump.

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Oh, Susan Rice! I thought the name was familiar. Daughter of a governor of the Federal Reserve. Married to ABC News executive producer.

lol

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Oh, Susan Rice! I thought the name was familiar. Daughter of a governor of the Federal Reserve. Married to ABC News executive producer.

lol

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She's no Condoleeza Rice, that's for sure. Phwoar! :love:

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She's no Condoleeza Rice, that's for sure. Phwoar! :love:

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And to think you mocked me for claiming there was a certain something about Macron's old lady. :rolleyes:

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And to think you mocked me for claiming there was a certain something about Macron's old lady. :rolleyes:

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Pffff. She's a raddled old hag compared to 9/11 era Condi. Woof!

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Pffff. She's a raddled old hag compared to 9/11 era Condi. Woof!

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Good lord, man, Condi had all the sex appeal of a wet tissue.

She may be an old hag, but I'd imagine Macron's missus would be very eager to please. A highly under-estimated characteristic in a bird imo.

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Good lord, man, Condi had all the sex appeal of a wet tissue.

She may be an old hag, but I'd imagine Macron's missus would be very eager to please. A highly under-estimated characteristic in a bird imo.

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I think Condi would have been extremely demanding. You're just worried you wouldn't have been able to satisfy her profound carnality.